Talk:broaden someone's horizons

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broaden one's horizons

Move to broaden someone's horizons.

The reflexive use is not distinct AFAICT. DCDuring TALK 11:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree, it can be one's own horizons, but not always. Move per nom. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Move per nom. I actually think the reflexive use should have its own sense line or subsense line — "I want to broaden my horizons by reading more" and "Reading more has broadened my horizons" are arranging the arguments in two very different ways — but putting it on a separate page would exaggerate and (paradoxically!) obscure the reality of the difference. —Ruakh_TALK 15:51, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I have long wondered about verb-centered idioms that have both reflexive and non-reflexive uses. Separating them by the difference between "one's" (indicating reflexive-only) and "someone's" (indicating ?) seems to place an unrealistic burden on the user, which is only partly mitigated by "Related terms" links between the two. (I don't think "Alternative forms" is accurate, but I might be wrong.) Thoughts? DCDuring TALK 18:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I wonder about even three "senses": reflexive, person-as-subject, object-as-subject. DCDuring TALK 18:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Moved; kept redirect.​—msh210℠ (talk) 17:22, 29 January 2013 (UTC)