Talk:an hero

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Um what... Jamesjiao → ^{T ◊ C} 01:04, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Move to rfv. Seems real at least in the meme sense. But citable elsewhere, and as a noun, adjective and verb? Mglovesfun (talk) 01:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I find the claim that it’s a grammatic error to be questionable. I don’t know who wrote the page, but as any Romanicist knows, H-dropping is a normal phenomenon. Like any old H word, older books sometimes have the euphonic indefinite article applied before it.

Also, here’s a Google Groups link for the lazy. --Æ&Œ (talk) 02:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Only it's not a(n) historical text, it is from a myspace post presumably by a Minnesotan seventh grader. I think the likelihood it was a grammatical error highly outweighs the likelihood of H-dropping becoming common in Minnesota. --WikiTiki89 14:48, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The content of the entry as it presently stands is accurate AFAIK&R, apart from the adjectival use, with which I'm unfamiliar; an heroic seems more likely for that POS. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

• Delete Why would be have an entry for an hero? It is SoP. And it's like a having an entry for they says or Caesar sunt. I'm sure we could find attestation, but why? Who is helped by this nonsense? DCDuring TALK 20:10, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

  But it's not SOP: an hero ≠ a hero; an hero = (commit) suicide. That meaning, AFAIK, is not carried over to a hero, let alone to hero (sans the indefinite article). Also, it's not a grammatical error (at least not any more); it's entirely intentional and, indeed, the only way to write this phrase. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 20:38, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Keep per ISMETA (but definitely RFV it). — Ungoliant ^(Falai) 20:44, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry.

Please attest it without cluttering RfV. Wiktionary seems to like entries that waste normal folks' time while memorializing adolescent drivel (as long as it's on net). The adjective will almost certainly be deleted because finding any usage that is not an instance of what any noun can do seems implausible. DCDuring TALK 21:49, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Become an hero used to mean "commit suicide" was citable on Usenet (see Citations:become an hero). An hero on its own as a verb is proving more difficult. -Cloudcuckoolander (talk) 04:07, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Cited as a verb. The book by Trevor James Zaple was self-published through Lulu, and the quotation can be viewed on page six of the preview here. -Cloudcuckoolander (talk) 05:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Cited noun. -Cloudcuckoolander (talk) 05:28, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

• Keep per missing RFD-relevant rationale for deletion. Can be sent to RFV if wished, but that seems unneeded given the citations currently present in an hero. --Dan Polansky (talk) 21:05, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Keep. RFV if necessary. Equinox ◑ 20:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Keep because hey, according to this the ungrammatical error is on purpose. As is the case with a lot of internet memes in general. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 11:18, 31 December 2013 (UTC)P.S. If anyone needs an introduction to 4ch's culture, let me know. Joking of course.

Kept. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 17:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)