Talk:alles gut
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Language section does not seem to be in English. SemperBlotto 18:59, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- According to ISO 693-3 the language corresponding to code hrx is Hunsrik aka Hunsriker, Rio Grand Hunsriker in English. Fixed language header. --Hekaheka 22:20, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- And now categorized, can we close this rfd now? Mglovesfun (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, if you are satisfied that it is good. We don't have Hunsrik entries for the component parts (and it looks like German to me (but what do I know)). SemperBlotto 21:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have no idea, I think this is our only Hunsrik entry. w:Riograndenser Hunsrückisch (Hunsrik language redirects there) say it's a Germanic language spoken in Brazil, so the entry looks right to me. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- The entry looks exactly like German, which does not seem surprising at first glance as Hunsrik has developed from a German dialect. On the other hand, it is not clear whether Hunsrik has an established written form. According to one source, the beginning of Lord's Prayer in Hunsrik looks like this:
- Vata unsa, de du bischt im Himmel
- geheilicht wet dei Nome
- dei Reich kommt
- dei Wille geschet
- wi im Himmel och so uf de Ead.
- Unsa tächlich Brot geb uns heit
- un vageb uns unsa Schult
- so wi mea vagewe unsa Schuliche
- un fia uns net in Vasuchung
- awa erles uns vom dem Üwel
- weil dea is das Reich un di Kraft
- un di Helichket in Ewichket.
- This does not look exactly like German, although it is clearly related. I have asked the original contributor to participate in this discussion. --Hekaheka 13:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- The entry looks exactly like German, which does not seem surprising at first glance as Hunsrik has developed from a German dialect. On the other hand, it is not clear whether Hunsrik has an established written form. According to one source, the beginning of Lord's Prayer in Hunsrik looks like this:
- I have no idea, I think this is our only Hunsrik entry. w:Riograndenser Hunsrückisch (Hunsrik language redirects there) say it's a Germanic language spoken in Brazil, so the entry looks right to me. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:56, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, if you are satisfied that it is good. We don't have Hunsrik entries for the component parts (and it looks like German to me (but what do I know)). SemperBlotto 21:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- And now categorized, can we close this rfd now? Mglovesfun (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hello, I created the entry. First of all, there is an independent Hunsrik orthography, in which case the phrase would be written "ales kuut" (See third line in this site http://www.hunsrik.org/). However, the vast majority of people who write in it use a Standard German based spelling. Most words are indeed the same as German, but the phrase "alles gut" is unique to Hunsrik (I might be mistaken, but I've never seen a German use that phrase, while my relatives who speak Hunsrik say it all the time). It is a calque of Portuguese as I wrote in the etymology section, since Hunsrik developed in a Portuguese speaking nation. Given the uniqueness of the phrase, I support its inclusion. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 21:31, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's rarely used in standard German (perhaps originating from Hunsrik), but rarely is not never. This should be a Hunsrik entry though. Now the question is: should we have this entry at alles gut, or ales kuut? - -sche (discuss) 03:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps both? Wiesemann's orthography was published only in 2008 but the language exists since the 19th century. Also, please someone decide whether you want to delete the entry or keep it, I have more Hunsrik words to add but I don't want my work to be in vain! Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 01:11, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
I suggest that we use Wiesemann's ortography for Hunsrik entries. The corresponding standard German spelling can be mentioned in etymology section. Despite this, we might want to keep "alles gut" as "soft redirect" (alternative spelling of ales kuut) as its Hunsrik usage differs from German usage. --Hekaheka 19:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
closed as kept, since nobody questions the validity of this phrase. Spelling issues should be discussed on another forum. -- Liliana • 12:50, 13 July 2011 (UTC)