Talk:Slav
Add topicAs for the etymology, while English uses the term "Slav" derived from "slava" (fame), in many languages the term uses the root "slov-" and is, as far as I know, derived from "slovo" (word - thus "Slavs" as "speakers of the word / language"). - Filip 21:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- I cleaned out that etymology that someone posted. Awaiting references for a detailed treatment of the etymology. --- Alexander 007 17:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Webster 1913 lists alternative forms Sclav and Slave. Searching for evidence for the latter (rather than text about slaves) is hard. Equinox ◑ 13:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I had read the etymology of Slav as "Slave", but that never made sense to me. Slovo (word) does, if not for this small piece of evidence: The word for German in slavic languages (e.g., Nemec in Czech) is derived from the word "Mute". In other words, Slavs could speak to one another, but not to Germans.
- Slave is derived from Slav (because Slavs were often forced into slavery).
- As to Equinox's question: I can find this, but I'm not sure it's the right sense, as opposed to the name of a specific group:
- 1766, An Universal History, from the Earliest Account of Time, volume XLIV, index: Slaves or Slavì of Pomerania, with their confederates defeated near Lunden in Scania, [...]
- The Imperial reference library: comprising a general encylopaedia also has "Slave, Sclav" defined as a member of the Slavonic race.
- "Slave" also occurs as a scanno of "Slavs", which makes searching even harder. Travels in the Slavonic Provinces of Turkey-In-Europe even uses "Slāv".
- - -sche (discuss) 22:15, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- And then again, the word Slav, I read online, could be derived from the root word "sclav" meaning glory, and that the "etymology" concerning the word "slave" is institutional (or institutionalized) baloney. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 07:05, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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[edit]As you can hear on https://youglish.com/pronounce/Slav/english, the pronunciation with /æ/ does not seem to exist (at least among educated speakers), neither in US English nor in any other variety. This is parallel to the pronunciation of Slavic, see Talk:Slavic. --Buncic (talk) 06:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)