Talk:HitlerFan1488

RFD discussion: April–May 2024

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HitlerFan1488

RFD was opened by an IP user (@Sundaydriver1?) with the initial comment:

• It's just a user-name; other user-names were used trice or more as well and thus would pass the basic WT:CFI criteria (e.g. Amouranth, Rezo).
• WT:CFI#NSE: "No individual person should be listed as a sense [some restriction]". Likely this restriction should be extended.

Lunabunn (talk) 16:47, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Keep as the RFD seems misguided. The entry already contains 3 quotes (and I see that more attestations aren't hard to find), meaning the entry already passes the basic CFI attestation requirement.

The term also does not refer to an individual person; it is a notional username, as already clearly stated in the definition. Lunabunn (talk) 16:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Not a user name, but an archetype, like Mrs. Watanabe. Equinox ◑ 16:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Compare Firstname Bunchofnumbers. Binarystep (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Move to RFV, this term seems too obscure for inclusion. Ioaxxere (talk) 19:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

How many attestations are needed? Are the three existing attestations not sufficient?  --Lambiam 23:53, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Move to RFV per Ioaxxere. lattermint (talk) 21:05, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Keep per Lunabunn, Equinox, and Binarystep. CJ-Moki (talk) 07:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm not going to strike this myself, but I'd take a look at the contributions of this user: Special:Contributions/CJ-Moki. Especially the fact that they have fewer than 50 edits + a significant percentage of them are for... questionable entries. AG202 (talk) 02:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Move to RFV. There need to be more durable quotes. Reddit has not been allowed yet as a durable source per WT:CFI. The vote at Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2022/September § Reddit ended in 9-9, and the quoted issues still persist. Tumblr as a source is questionable (also has not been allowed yet), and I'm definitely not for a random message board counting for CFI, whose link doesn't even lead to the comment being mentioned. At least find some Twitter quotes. CC: @Lunabunn, @Lambiam AG202 (talk) 02:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

I’ve not kept up with the policy changes on online-only sources. Does this count?

“Like, incoming argument that sounds like a ridiculous strawman but is genuinely sincere; let's say we get a new user named HitlerFan1488 (or something less ridiculous) and the first thing they do is create a page for a Fanfic named 'The Nazis Did Nothing Wrong', and it's exactly what you imagine.”^[1]

At least, this makes it abundantly clear that the term us not “just a username” and does not refer to any individual person.

Is there something special about Twitter uses? Here is one:

“Oh yes, those noted liberals on Twitter like "HitlerFan1488" and "OvenLordCuckslayer666" just have it so hard here.”^[2]

The term is unlikely to be found in printed sources. This will increasingly be true for new terms entering the lexicon.  --Lambiam 06:33, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Twitter tends to count, yes. AG202 (talk) 21:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Kept clear consensus to keep at RfD. Article may still face an RfV Purplebackpack89 21:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)