Talk:Gotham

Gotham City

Not thoroughly familiar with Wiktionary rules/guidelines, so I wouldn't put it in myself, but it seems like Batman's Gotham City would be a reasonable choice for the #2 definition, or at least in there somewhere. Even as a New Yorker, I tend to think "Batman" when I hear "Gotham", so even for the #1 definition, it doesn't seem unreasonable. I know the Wikipedia entry mentions it towards the top. --98.116.115.20 19:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Etymology

Does anyone know if the word comes from the Visigoths? It's the only source of the "goth" construction that I am aware of in English. The statement "Veni Gotham..." in Latin would imply that the name of the town (in Latin) was "Gotha", since "-am" is the Accusative suffix in Latin. Don't know if that helps any. --98.116.115.20 19:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

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Gotham

Rfv-sense "London". The sense "village in Nottinghamshire" is also suspect, so I guess I'll RFV that too. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 04:49, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

• For details of the village in Notts, see GENUKI. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:13, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

According to the entry itself, Gotham doesn't mean London, one author used the word Gotham to refer to London (and in Latin, not English!). The definition seems to be claiming this is not CFI meeting (only used by one author, and not in English). Mglovesfun (talk) 10:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

• RFV failed: no quotations provided. As an auxi check: MWO has Gotham entry but not the sense. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

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Gotham

• RFD-sense: A fictional city, the hometown of Batman. (Inserted later.) --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:19, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd expected to find at least a couple of citations that could support a sense like "A crime-ridden fictional city where the Batman comics are set" by comparing a real crime-ridden city to the fictional one, but surprisingly, I can't find anything like that. Therefore, this seems to fail WT:FICTION. Smurrayinchester (talk) 17:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Should this be an RFV? But given the choice, delete all such fancruft. Equinox ◑ 17:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• Delete, Batman's home town is Gotham City anyway, not just Gotham. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 18:55, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
  • "When Gotham City is ashes, you have my permission to die"? I guess it fails WT:FICTION anyway, though we could move this to RFV to keep obnoxious bureaucrats our consciences silent... — Keφr 17:33, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

• Keep and reword There's no deletion rationale here. RfV rationale, yes. Rewording rationale, yes. RfD rational, no Purplebackpack89 ^{(Notes Taken) (Locker)} 19:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Delete per nom. — Ungoliant ^(falai) 19:52, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

This might be citable.

1. [1] I don't think she's saying New York City is like New York City. Esp. because of the Star Wars reference, I think she's comparing it to Gotham City..
2. [2] Because of the crowds and police, I suspect he's comparing London to Gotham City. Bit ambiguous to me, though.
3. [3] May not qualify, but not far off.

I'd suggest RFV. DAVilla 20:39, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

I can't see the quote at the third link you gave, but in the first I think she's saying the apartment felt like a log cabin in the middle of the big city and is using Gotham to mean NYC as the big, bad city. But I don't think she's thinking of Batman's Gotham City at all. The second quote might be referring to Batman's city, especially since the guy's name is Robin, but it could really equally well be referring to NYC. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Sense deleted. This does indeed appear to fail WT:FICTION. bd2412 T 20:22, 24 November 2014 (UTC)