Talk:Fuhkien

Etymology

@LlywelynII, Suzukaze-c I think it's more likely from the historical Nanjing court dialect, just as Taipeh, Peking, Nanking, Chekiang, etc. are. Hakka is a very unlikely donor for a word for Fujian province. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 03:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

^ —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 03:44, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Seems unlikely, frankly, given the area's major ports and the more likely origin in the local dialect that pronounces the name in that manner. If you believe it originated in Nanjingese as a matter of consistency (which little was in early Chinese romanization) you at least need to provide some source for some era of some form of the Nanjing dialect using at least a vaguely similar pronunciation. You can't simply make it up whole cloth and insert it as unsourced fact. — LlywelynII 16:56, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

@LlywelynII: See An English and Chinese Vocabulary, in the Court Dialect, page lv and lix. Hakka is local to Fujian, but I don’t think there’s much importance there to the ports, which are (AFAIK) all in the coastal area, where Hakka is not really spoken. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 17:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Also, it's often used alongside other province names, which are also derived from the court dialect. It would be unusual for the name of the province to be derived from a minor dialect in the province rather than the dialect of the provincial capital of Fuzhou or the official language of the elite (i.e. the court dialect). — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 19:29, 10 October 2020 (UTC)