Talk:Bergtürken

Inflection

@SKA-KSI: Regarding you comment: "German Wikipedia has an own entry form the term "Bergtürken" - in plural form. The "Clean up" is obviously more politically motivated than anything else. Censoring much?".

• WP is no word dictionary, and their lemmatizing doesn't matter.
• "Bergtürken f (genitive Bergtürken, plural Bergtürken)" is wrong in any case.
• As for you accusations: No. It's simply wrong, and that's it.

For the second sense, there's a (possibly rare) singular:

• "»Wenn ich ein Rotkopf bin, dann bist du ein Bergtürke«, entgegnete Adaman. Esat schoss hoch, streckte seine kurzen Arme zur Decke und rief: »Das sagst du nicht noch einmal, du ...«" (Wilfried Eggers: Paragraf 301. Roman.)
• "Wenn er sagte, er sei Kurde, sagten andere, Kurden gibt es nicht: Du bist Bergtürke. " (Sonja Hartwig: Kazım, wie schaffen wir das? Kazım Erdoğan und seine türkische Männergruppe - vom Zusammenleben in Deutschland)

The link in the other edit summary should have been this: Appendix:English unattested phobias. --Bakunla (talk) 15:47, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

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Bergtürken

German. Tagged by Bakunla on 5 May, not listed:

“Bismarck is just one usage”

Sense:

(derogatory) offensive term refering to Albanians

(the term was used by German chancellor Otto von Bismarck back in 1878 (June 10), three days before the Berlin Congress, he denied the existence of an ethnic Albanian group / Albanian nation)

[1] Spiegel article Die Stämme da unten (Engl. 'The tribes down there') - written by Roland Schleicher, 12.04.1999 / Transl.: On June 10, 1878, just three days before the start of the Berlin Congress, the Albanians proclaimed the "League for the Defense of the Rights of the Albanian People" in Prizren, the second most important city in Kosovo. But Bismarck refused to receive these "mountain turks" at all, he knew no Albanian nation.

[2] Ethnischer Nationalismus und ethnische Minderheiten (Ethnic Nationalism and ethnic Minorities) - by Georg Feyrer (Autor), 1999 / Translation: At the end of the Wars of Liberation, in the late 19th century, the Serbs conquered large parts of Albanian territory and committed massacres on the muslim population. The Albanian resistance cannot receive attention and support at the international level, quite the opposite, the Albanians are not even accorded the status of their own people. In this context, the German Chancellor Bismarck speaks derogatory of 'Bergtürken' (German for 'mountain Turks') J3133 (talk) 08:29, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

RFV failed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:47, 30 January 2022 (UTC)