Talk:American longhair
Add topicLatest comment: 10 years ago by Dan Polansky in topic RFD discussion: May–June 2014
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- I do not believe this is the name of a Maine Coon. There is no citation provided. I notice this was discussed at Wikipedia [1] WritersCramp (talk) 16:12, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- This is a matter for WT:RFV, I think. Per the little blurbs at the top of this page (and that one), RFD is for "Requests for deletion of pages in the main namespace due to policy violations" (including lack of idiomaticity), while RFV is for "Requests for verification in the form of durably-archived attestations conveying the meaning of the term in question." - -sche (discuss) 21:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- I thought this was a synonym for hippie. bd2412 T 21:57, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- @WritersCramp you're challenging idiomaticity right? You're saying it's merely a longhair which is American. BTW I checked for attestation before creating it, and it is attestable. But most of the hits are for a different sense as BD2412 points out. But of course, you only need three citations! Renard Migrant (talk) 12:37, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Not all longhair cats living in the United States are of the American longhair variety, some American longhair cats live outside the United States, American longhair says nothing about what kind of critter it is, and Wiktionary:COALMINE, so not SOP. Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 15:03, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- COALMINE only applies to single-word spellings (i.e. "Americanlonghair"). Equinox ◑ 15:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Rest of my points still stand, and the last point can (and has) been used to create a cat definition for longhair that passes muster Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 13:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Though the nominator isn't alleging sum of part, he or she is alleging 'this doesn't exist'. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- To continue with the pointless argument (pointless because we're all agreeing) it's like a blue whale. Not all whales that are blue and blue whales! Renard Migrant (talk) 15:53, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Though the nominator isn't alleging sum of part, he or she is alleging 'this doesn't exist'. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Rest of my points still stand, and the last point can (and has) been used to create a cat definition for longhair that passes muster Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 13:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- COALMINE only applies to single-word spellings (i.e. "Americanlonghair"). Equinox ◑ 15:11, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Not all longhair cats living in the United States are of the American longhair variety, some American longhair cats live outside the United States, American longhair says nothing about what kind of critter it is, and Wiktionary:COALMINE, so not SOP. Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 15:03, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- @WritersCramp you're challenging idiomaticity right? You're saying it's merely a longhair which is American. BTW I checked for attestation before creating it, and it is attestable. But most of the hits are for a different sense as BD2412 points out. But of course, you only need three citations! Renard Migrant (talk) 12:37, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per -sche. Request verification if necessary. — Ungoliant (falai) 00:51, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, as if it wasn't clear from my comment above Purplebackpack89 (Notes Taken) (Locker) 13:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Keep cat definition. RfV would be the right venue for the less plausible "Maine Coon" definition. DCDuring TALK 19:06, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Speedy RFD kept as out of scope of RFD. This manner of closure is supported by discussion above. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)