Talk:𒆳𒆠𒈾𒄴𒈾
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The creator is notorious for his carelessness. I couldn't find it (under the given spelling at least) in The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago, but it could be that they don't give proper names. --WikiTiki89 18:21, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- I have no idea who has enough interest in Assyrian to try hunting this down. @Mnemosientje? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:18, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- I have very little experience with this language and even less time to look into it at the moment, I'm afraid. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 16:09, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- This form (or, a form transliterated KUR ki-na-aḫ-na) is found in the Amarna Tablets, as documented by Anson F. Rainey's Canaanite in the Amarna Tablets: A Linguistic Analysis (1995, →ISBN) and WP. Biblical Peoples and Ethnicity: An Archaeological Study says it was [also] spelt "ki-na-aḫ-nu(m) (Akkadian texts from Mari, Byblos, and Tyre), ki-in-a-nim (Akkadian text from Alalakh), māt ki-na-ḫi (Akkadian texts from Assyria and Ugarit), māt ki-in-na-aḫ-ḫi (Akkadian texts from Egypt, Mitanni, Bogazkoy/Hattusa, and Babylon)". - -sche (discuss) 22:18, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- @Vorziblix, what do you think? We should delete this unless we get positive confirmation that it's right. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:22, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I’d say so, if no one can confirm that the cuneiform spelling is correct; in any case, we don’t include determinatives in the names of Akkadian lemmas, so having this lemma at this entry name is certainly wrong. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 03:48, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- I cited a reference which says this form is found in the Amarna Tablets (EA 137 and apparently also EA 151), but if the determiner should be dropped from the pagename, please move the page. - -sche (discuss) 17:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Right, thanks. I am far from an expert in Akkadian, so I couldn’t be sure that the cuneiform lines up with the transliteration (given the creator’s poor track record of reverse-transliterating other languages in the past); if the cuneiform looks right to you, then this is cited. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 02:28, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Well, these are the Unicode characters for those sound/transliteration values, in my understanding. As discussed in WT:Beer parlour#Cuneiform_and_Unicode, the shapes which fonts assign to them may or may not match the shapes found in the tablets, but that's basically a technical/font/display problem. - -sche (discuss) 03:49, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Right, thanks. I am far from an expert in Akkadian, so I couldn’t be sure that the cuneiform lines up with the transliteration (given the creator’s poor track record of reverse-transliterating other languages in the past); if the cuneiform looks right to you, then this is cited. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 02:28, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- I cited a reference which says this form is found in the Amarna Tablets (EA 137 and apparently also EA 151), but if the determiner should be dropped from the pagename, please move the page. - -sche (discuss) 17:06, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, I’d say so, if no one can confirm that the cuneiform spelling is correct; in any case, we don’t include determinatives in the names of Akkadian lemmas, so having this lemma at this entry name is certainly wrong. — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 03:48, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
- Passed and moved per above. - -sche (discuss) 23:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)