Talk:𐍆𐌿𐌻𐌻𐌰𐍅𐌴𐌹𐍃𐌾𐌰𐌽

Past participle

@Mnemosientje So I’ve found this anomaly when creating the page for 𐌲𐌰𐍆𐌿𐌻𐌻𐌰𐍅𐌴𐌹𐍃𐌾𐌰𐌽 (gafullaweisjan) which I ended up not creating. Apparently, the Past participle is only attested once in Luke 1:1 as 𐌲𐌰𐍆𐌿𐌻𐌻𐌰𐍅𐌴𐌹𐍃𐌹𐌳𐍉𐌽𐍃 (gafullaweisidōns) (Weak Feminine, either the Genitive Singular, Nominative or accusative plural). I'm not sure why the past participle is written with "d" instead of "þ". So I want to ask you about your opinion on the matter. 𐌷𐌻𐌿𐌳𐌰𐍅𐌹𐌲𐍃 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌹𐌲𐌲𐍃 (talk) 01:46, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

@Holodwig21 Hey, that's entirely regular so you can go ahead and create the entries. The <þ> ([θ]) before an <s> (as found in the participle 𐌲𐌰𐍆𐌿𐌻𐌻𐌰𐍅𐌴𐌹𐍃𐌹𐌸𐍃 (gafullaweisiþs)) often becomes voiced <d> ([ð]) in intervocalic position. Compare the inflection of 𐌼𐌴𐌻𐌹𐌸𐍃 (mēliþs) or any other similar past participle in Category:Gothic past participles. Happens in nouns too, e.g. 𐌰𐍂𐌱𐌰𐌹𐌸𐍃 (arbaiþs). This is because these -þs endings were originally *-daz/*-diz, the reduction of the -az/-iz part to an unvoices -s causes the [ð] to devoice as well in the nominative singular in which form it directly precedes the unvoiced s, but in other forms of the paradigm the original voiced form is visible. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 13:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

(Happy new year by the way) — Mnemosientje (t · c) 13:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

@Mnemosientje: Thanks for the clarification and Happy new year to you too. 𐌷𐌻𐌿𐌳𐌰𐍅𐌹𐌲𐍃 𐌰𐌻𐌰𐍂𐌴𐌹𐌺𐌹𐌲𐌲𐍃 (talk) 23:20, 1 January 2020 (UTC)