Talk:πΉπ±π½π°πππΏπ
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Etymology
[edit]@KIeio This is just ibns + -assus, there's no extra n in there. βCodeCat 22:07, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- Good call, it seems like it is only one of two words (the other being ufarassus) in -assus that don't have the -in- as well, though. I'll probably create -assus as an alt form of -inassus. β Kleio (t Β· c) 22:18, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure if there's only two. π»π΄πΊπΉπ½π°πππΏπ (lΔkinassus) looks like it could be lΔkinΕn + -assus too, though more ambiguously. It's even possible that such formations are what led to the -inassus variant in the first place. I'm curious if there are other examples that can be explained as class 2 weak + -assus. βCodeCat 22:32, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- Had a quick look, drauhtinassus is probably from drauhtinon + -assus for all we know (no other candidate attested), and skalkinassus could be from skalkinon or skalks. β Kleio (t Β· c) 22:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- skalkinassus seems like a good example, but drauhtinassus could be ambiguous, as *druhtinaz is attested as a noun in other Germanic languages, so the Gothic verb may be derived from that. I don't know if that makes sense semantically though. βCodeCat 22:43, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I just got around to creating ππΊπ°π»πΊπΉπ½π°πππΏπ, but the ambiguity renders the current etymology section a bit cumbersome (entry categorised in both suffixcats, etc). Gotta go now, but I'll think on this. β Kleio (t Β· c) 12:43, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- drauhtinassus is likelier to be from drauhtinon, by the way: drauhtinon specifically means to make war or serve as a soldier; drauhtinassus means warfare. A hypothetical *drauhteins (if it retained the meaning "military leader") would make less semantic sense than drauhtinon in this case as a source for drauhtinassus IMO. β Kleio (t Β· c) 20:20, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- skalkinassus seems like a good example, but drauhtinassus could be ambiguous, as *druhtinaz is attested as a noun in other Germanic languages, so the Gothic verb may be derived from that. I don't know if that makes sense semantically though. βCodeCat 22:43, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- Had a quick look, drauhtinassus is probably from drauhtinon + -assus for all we know (no other candidate attested), and skalkinassus could be from skalkinon or skalks. β Kleio (t Β· c) 22:39, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure if there's only two. π»π΄πΊπΉπ½π°πππΏπ (lΔkinassus) looks like it could be lΔkinΕn + -assus too, though more ambiguously. It's even possible that such formations are what led to the -inassus variant in the first place. I'm curious if there are other examples that can be explained as class 2 weak + -assus. βCodeCat 22:32, 17 November 2016 (UTC)