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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Rua in topic n-stem?

n-stem?

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@Mnemosientje The two entries state that they are attested only in the dative singular. But that form is ambiguous as to whether it's an an-stem or an a-stem. Given that a-stem forms are much more frequent in West Germanic, do you think the Gothic form could be one, too? β€”Rua (mew) 09:53, 5 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Rua: Good question. Given the -j- suffix, πŒ²πŒ°πƒπŒΉπŒ½πŒΈπŒΎπŒ°πŒΌ (gasinΓΎjam) almost certainly belongs to an an-stem lemma (see -𐌾𐌰 (-ja)). πŒ²πŒ°πƒπŒΉπŒ½πŒΈπŒ°πŒΌ (gasinΓΎam) could technically speaking go both ways, but an an-stem noun makes more sense: agent nouns are very often weak in Gothic and the combination ga- + ... + -a in particular has a lot of precedent. Compare such formations as 𐌲𐌰𐌳𐌰𐌹𐌻𐌰 (gadaila), πŒ²πŒ°π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ½πŒ° (garazna), 𐌲𐌰𐌾𐌿𐌺𐌰 (gajuka) and 𐌲𐌰𐌷𐌻𐌰𐌹𐌱𐌰 (gahlaiba). In contrast, Category:Gothic a-stem nouns contains no agent nouns with ga-. Therefore I followed the lead of KΓΆbler and Lehmann, who both suppose an an-stem nom. sg. form. β€” Mnemosientje (t Β· c) 08:57, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Mnemosientje: Hmm, I wonder why the West Germanic languages went in such a different direction then. Reconstructing a common origin is proving to be a problem. β€”Rua (mew) 09:31, 6 July 2020 (UTC)Reply