Talk:케이팝

K-pop is not a Korean word

@Theknightwho: It was an obvious typo in the edit summary. It’s not a Korean word. I undid your edit because it’s not right. Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 09:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Atitarev It is trivially attestable in Korean text. It's not English just because it uses Latin characters. Theknightwho (talk) 09:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Theknightwho: I always opposed this kind of bullshit entries when terms in the Latin script are entered into mainspace for languages that don't use the Latin script because I care about the sanity of this dictionary.

Yes, you can find "bluetooth" or "eBay" in a Russian text, "management" in a Greek text and

"K-Pop" in a Korean but they are never considered native and not included in any major or respectable dictionary.

There are of course, a few exceptions, some were forced but native speakers provided extensive quotes and built good cases. There are good reasons why man#Chinese exists but not tennis#Chinese.

I am very upset about your edit-warring and pushing this agenda without knowing the language.

I may make a case for study and discuss but I will just take a break from Wiktionary.

(Notifying TAKASUGI Shinji, HappyMidnight, Tibidibi, Quadmix77, Kaepoong, AG202, The Editor's Apprenice, Saranamd): : Hi. If the community decides to include such words, so be it. Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 08:21, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Atitarev This is why we have attestability requirements. Please stop trying to ignore them with this prescriptivist bullshit, especially given you are clearly attempting to set higher inclusion requirements. If it fails RFV that's fine, but your reaction is grossly disproportionate and completely out of line. The only agenda I'm pushing is consistency. Theknightwho (talk) 10:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

@Theknightwho: It's not just "prescriptivist bullshit": see Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2017/September § Modern Greek terms spelt with Latin characters. PUC – 14:26, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

@PUC Well, much of that thread is Atitarev expressing the same opinion, but it doesn't change the fact that terms can otherwise become fully nativised while still being written in a different script; something that has happened in a number of East Asian languages for a very long time, including Korean. Theknightwho (talk) 14:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)