Talk:攻守同盟

@suzukaze-c, KevinUp: I don't know anything about Chinese, but could this be SOP? I want to nominate offensive and defensive alliance for deletion and the fewer "obstacles" there are, the better. Canonicalization (talk) 10:01, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

I checked several dictionaries such as Taiwan's 《兩岸萌典》 [1] and Mainland China's Xiandai Hanyu Cidian 《现代汉语词典》. There appears to be two senses for this term in Chinese. The first sense refers to an "offensive and defensive alliance" by two countries against another country during times of war. Quotations for this sense from the early 1900s related to Qing dynasty history can be found here. The second sense appears to be idiomatic, referring to two parties that have mutually agreed to conceal acts committed by either party before heading to a trial in court. KevinUp (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Also recorded as a 成語／成语 (chéngyǔ, “chengyu”) in the following chengyu dictionaries: KevinUp (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

1. 《汉语成语大辞典》 (2009). Shanghai: 上海辞书出版社
2. 《商務成語大詞典》 (2016). Hong Kong: 商務印書館

@Justinrleung for a more knowledgeable opinion. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 07:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@Canonicalization, Suzukaze-c, KevinUp: I would keep it since it's in so many dictionaries and has more than one definition, as KevinUp has highlighted above. However, I don't think the translation hub should exist. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 19:18, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

@suzukaze-c, KevinUp, Justinrleung: Thanks everyone! Canonicalization (talk) 10:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)