Talk:影帝

RFV discussion: March–July 2023

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影帝

This entry, or one or more of its senses, has been nominated as derogatory pursuant to WT:DEROGATORY. It may be speedily deleted if it does not have at least three quotations meeting the attestation requirements within two weeks of the nomination date, that is, by 14 March 2023.

Chinese. Rfv-sense: "(slang, derogatory, sarcastic) a man skillful at deception via acting, usually for cheating or swindling" and "(slang, sarcastic, derogatory) Wen Jiabao". — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 21:04, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Pinging @Mahogany115 for the Wen Jiabao sense. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 00:42, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

This term has been already popular among the dissident community. If you search on Pincong or LIHKG you will see. Mahogany115 (talk) 05:21, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mahogany115: Please help to provide quotes per WT:ATTEST. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 05:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Added two cites for the Wen Jiabao sense to Citations:影帝. There is a considerable number of usage on Google Books, but they are all from the same publisher (明鏡), sometimes even in the exact same wording, which may not constitute as an independent source, so I've only added one instance of those. There is also a few usage in the online news media, notably the Chinese version of New York Times (which I've already added), RFI (a radio station, so I don't think it's printed?), and a few Falun Gong-related media. – Wpi31 (talk) 06:30, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wpi31: Thanks for adding those. I think those seem a little mention-y, though. I've added something that is more of a usage. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 06:57, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

• RFV failed for both senses. The Wen Jiabao sense only has one use from 2012; the other two are mentions. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 03:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)