Talk:唐宋音
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rfd-sense "the pronunciation of Chinese characters used in the Tang and Song dynasties of China, mainly limited to Zen vocabulary, and has less influence on general expressions". Tagged but not listed (diff) by @Poketalker. --Fytcha (talk) 05:33, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- The Nihon Kokugo Daijiten reads: One of kanji readings [used] in Japan[ese language]. Transmitted by Zen monks, merchant class, etc. from the Kamakura/Muromachi to the Edo period, these are based on sounds since the Song dynasty. Digital Daijisen redirects to 唐音 (tōon), with two definitions: (1) One of kanji readings [used] in Japan[ese language]. In a narrow sense, it is based on initial Chinese pronunciations during the Ming and Qing dynasties, transmitted by Zen monks, interpreters, and traders to Nagasaki during the Edo period. In a broader sense, it also includes 宋音 (sōon) which was already widespred before the Edo period as tōsōon. (2) In general, term for a Chinese language or sound.
- Borderline, but any thoughts? ～ POKéTalker（═◉═） 12:45, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand why we are deleting it. This is definitely a Japanese word and the meaning seems correct. Kiril kovachev (talk) 18:40, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with @Kiril kovachev. The term exists, and the sense appears to be broadly confirmed by references. See also the Daijisen entry for 宋音, for instance. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:55, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. This seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be SOP. Given this has been open for 3 years, I'm closing this as nonsense. Theknightwho (talk) 02:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- RFD passed. Theknightwho (talk) 02:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)