Talk:台
Add topicSimplified or traditional??
[edit]Why does this character say it's "both simplified and traditional," then a traditional equivalent is given? 69.81.154.10 16:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- Because in reality both 台 and 臺 are used in traditional. Tooironic 13:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Can that information please (finally) be added to the Mandarin section? 71.66.97.228 06:54, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Abbreviation for Taiwan?
[edit]Can 台 be used as an abbreviation for 台湾? 24.29.228.33 06:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Mandarin readings
[edit]Can it be added in which contexts the several different Mandarin readings are used? 24.29.228.33 23:35, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
- Done. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 19:19, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Both 台 and 臺 are used in Traditional Chinese
[edit]Since both 台 and 臺 are used in Traditional Chinese, but 台 is still more common in Traditional Chinese.
Additional definition?
[edit]Can't this also refer to a plant (the tai plant), as described in the Shijing poem 南山有台? 204.11.189.94 14:52, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- This definition is already at 臺, the traditional form. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 19:18, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
More headaches
[edit]Sorry to bother everyone with this, but the official dictionary's page for 台 [1] doesn't mention 臺. I have no dog in the 臺/台 fight. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:56, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
- Silence doesn't mean much, to be honest. I just find it weird for this dictionary to choose 台 over 臺, though. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 00:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung I have always been on the outside looking in on this question. Is there anything I can read about this controversy (or whatever you want to call it) that could inform me about the various implications tied up with using this character or the other? When I use 臺 instead of 台, what impression do people get? When I use 台 same question. When a book uses 台 over 臺, what's the impression given? Political ramifications? --Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I can't say for what individual people would say about this, but I think 台 is just overall more common in my experience. 台 is actually considered standard in Hong Kong. There are various reasons for choosing one over the other. 台 is just easier to write, so it's more convenient. 臺 is probably used for adherence to standards, personal preference, maybe because that's how it's taught in schools, etc. There are just lots to consider. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 01:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- My first instinct is to reverse this edit [2] but I just don't KNOW what people really think about the relationship between these characters. I always write out the full 臺 for my addresses because it feels more official. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've reverted it. The wording is too strong, and words like "vulgar" and "incorrectly" are overly prescriptivist. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 07:17, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- My first instinct is to reverse this edit [2] but I just don't KNOW what people really think about the relationship between these characters. I always write out the full 臺 for my addresses because it feels more official. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 03:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- Well, I can't say for what individual people would say about this, but I think 台 is just overall more common in my experience. 台 is actually considered standard in Hong Kong. There are various reasons for choosing one over the other. 台 is just easier to write, so it's more convenient. 臺 is probably used for adherence to standards, personal preference, maybe because that's how it's taught in schools, etc. There are just lots to consider. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 01:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung I have always been on the outside looking in on this question. Is there anything I can read about this controversy (or whatever you want to call it) that could inform me about the various implications tied up with using this character or the other? When I use 臺 instead of 台, what impression do people get? When I use 台 same question. When a book uses 台 over 臺, what's the impression given? Political ramifications? --Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)