Talk:依嬸
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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Justinrleung in topic Definitions
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[edit]@Justinrleung According to p. 19 in 福州方言词典, the meaning of a middle-aged woman is "ĭ-sīng", and not "ĭ-*sīng". Just wondering if you got this from a more reliable source. Thanks! --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 13:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Mar vin kaiser: I got this from the other 福州方言词典 (1994). It's not "middle-aged woman" but 泛指较年轻的中年妇女. I'm not sure how to reconcile this with the definitions in 福州方言词典 (1998). — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 16:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: The only way of course is to ask a Fuzhou person. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 22:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Michael Ly, any insights here? — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 22:56, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- When I elicited 依嬸 for face-to-face address of the familial relation (嬸母) from my Fuzhou respondents, it was mostly ĭ-sīng (with initial assimilation s > l/n). One of them said that they had not used this to address any strangers, or to refer to a "young middle-aged woman". I'm curious about the source though!
- I asked a Fuqing native who did use ĭ-*sīng for the familial relation, which in his particular variety is IPA(key): [i⁵⁵ ðiŋ⁵³], broadly agreeing with the 福清方言研究 (1993). [Side point: still not 100% on the tone sandhi for all the sub-varieties, or whether this is exhibiting tone sandhi specific to diminutives.] However, Fuqing has very different rules for the distinction between assimilated and non-assimilated initials. Michael Ly (talk) 23:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Michael Ly: Thanks for your insights. I think it might have become a less common usage. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 02:34, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Michael Ly, any insights here? — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 22:56, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: The only way of course is to ask a Fuzhou person. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 22:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)