Talk:五

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Etymology

From Old Chinese *nga^? < Proto-Sino-Tibetan *p-nga (compare Classical Tibetan lnga)

not sure what that is. Robert Ullmann 16:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Does the IPA really use numbers? - -sche (discuss) 23:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Pitch numbers are clearer than IPA tone letters, especially when indicating tone sandhis. 129.78.32.22 23:27, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Cantonese

@Justinrleung Many Cantonese speakers from Malaysia and Singapore pronounce this m⁵. Should we list this as a variant? The dog2 (talk) 22:59, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: No, it is also a common variant elsewhere (like in Hong Kong), but we only list the “standard” because ng to m is predictable sound change. Perhaps the IPA should be shown eventually. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 00:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: OK, I just added a note that it is a common variant then. Among Cantonese speakers from Singapore, you will hear both pronunciations, depending on the individual. The dog2 (talk) 01:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

@The dog2: Sorry, I've reverted it. First, it's not an exclusive Malaysia/Singapore thing. Second, it's a systematic thing, like other pronunciations that are labelled as 懶音 (n- > l-, -ng > -n, ng- deletion, etc.). This should be handled by the module. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 01:42, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: OK. By the way, ng- deletion almost never occurs among Singaporean Cantonese speakers, unless their parents are from Hong Kong. Cantonese speakers whose families have been in Singapore since the colonial era almost always pronounce the initial ng. The dog2 (talk) 01:44, 8 July 2022 (UTC)