Talk:ロリ
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RFV of all the definitions under ロリ#Etymology 2. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 04:28, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sense "person with the Lolita complex" removed by User:UhhMaybe. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 02:26, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
- Isn't this etymology circular? That is, ロリ1 is a clipping of ロリータ, while ロリ2 is said to be a clipping of ロリコン. But ロリコン is a clipping of ロリータ・コンプレックス. Therefore, both come from the same source. And the meanings are certainly related (1: an attractive young girl; 2: attraction to young girls; one attracted to young girls; manga depicting attraction to young girls). This is a case of polysemy, not separate lexemes with separate etymologies. [Also – キモい！ sexualized orientalist nonsense] Cnilep (talk) 06:19, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- I think we can call that two separate etymologies, even if the two are related to each other. Roriita → rori and Roriita konpurekkusu → rorikon → rori are different etymological paths, not a case of polysemy of a term with a single etymology. —Mahāgaja · talk 06:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- It's not obvious to me that the path you suggest is indeed the etymology. It could be, or the three senses listed could come directly from ロリータ. (Even if that is the path, I'm not entirely convinced that those are sufficiently separate, but of course it is not unreasonable for you or others to think that they are sufficiently separate.) At this point, we have neither attestation of the three senses defined, nor verification of the etymology. Cnilep (talk) 04:39, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- I think we can call that two separate etymologies, even if the two are related to each other. Roriita → rori and Roriita konpurekkusu → rorikon → rori are different etymological paths, not a case of polysemy of a term with a single etymology. —Mahāgaja · talk 06:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- RFV failed. —Fish bowl (talk) 22:17, 13 March 2022 (UTC)