Talk:ポテトチップ

Divergent enought?

@Eirikr What do you mean "divergent enough"? How enough is enough? How "separate" is potechi from poteto chippu? Is it used totally differently from the source word (as in rad from radical)? Or is it overwhelmingly more common (as in gym compared to gymnasium)? ばかFumiko￥^talk 03:11, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

• By way of analogy, on the extreme end, one would say that snafu is derived from situation normal, all fucked up, but not that snafu is an alternative form of the longer expression -- even if the usage is nearly identical. Separately, brang is an alternative conjugation of bring as the past tense, but it is not an alternative form of brought. For your suggested example, gym is short for gymnasium, but it is not an alternative form. On the flip side, in English, laff is an alternative form of laugh, and in Spanish, q is an alternative form of que (“that”) or qué (“what”) -- the former stands for the latter, and is even pronounced the same way, even though usage is different -- the former versions are generally restricted to humorous or texting contexts, and would not be deemed acceptable in formal writing.

In Japanese, つく (tsuku) is an alternative form of 付く (“to stick to something”) and of 着く (“to arrive”): same pronunciation, similar meanings (depending on context). However, the terms here -- ポテチ (potechi) and ポテトチップ (poteto chippu) -- are not alternative forms of each other despite the same meaning, as they are pronounced differently. One is derived from the other, as a shortening or abbreviation.

In short, from what I've seen, the ===Alternative forms=== header is generally for cases where a single term might have multiple spellings or other renderings, where they all share the same pronunciation. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 04:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

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ポテトチップ

Rfv-sense ばかFumiko￥^talk 09:53, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Delete the etymology 2. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Rfv failed. ばかFumiko￥^talk 12:56, 2 August 2016 (UTC)