Talk:ブラック

RFV discussion: July 2022–March 2023

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ブラック

Japanese. Rfv-sense:

# a [[black]] {{gloss|person}}

@Britannic124

—Fish bowl (talk) 01:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

• Daijisen lists this, as visible at Weblio: https://www.weblio.jp/content/%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF My local copy of Daijirin also has this sense. A quick look at google:"あのブラックは" suggests that this sense is attestable in use. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 22:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

@Eirikr: None of these are about black people. —Fish bowl (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Fish bowl: Sorry, you're right, I was moving too quickly earlier and misinterpreted (the one I looked at in more depth was ultimately about someone named Black -- doh!).

Here's one example, talking more specifically about people: https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASN7X31M3N7QULFA03Q.html

This sense of black person / people might be more easily attestable in longer constructions than in isolation, such as we see in this book from 2004 or this edition of Japanese ELLE from April 2019.

It's certainly not common in Japanese usage, but it does seem to be present. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 22:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I added three quotations. They are all in discussions of ‘international’ topics (black music, black/white racism, Haiti’s Black Jacobins), but they are all clearly talking about black people or culture. In my opinion, the word is a bit specialized – I feel like 黒人 is more common and ‘ordinary’ – but the word is used. Cnilep (talk) 03:25, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

RFV passed. Cnilep (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2023 (UTC)