Talk:ត្រុំ
Add topicLatest comment: 2 years ago by Justinrleung in topic Etymology
Etymology
[edit]@Atitarev, I was wondering if you remember if you had a reference for the Proto-Southwestern Tai etymology? — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 07:59, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Justinrleung: Sure. Khmer and Thai (and Lao) share a large number of loan words. It’s a cognate with Thai คราม (kraam), copied from there. @Octahedron80, can you confirm, pls? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:09, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- In my opinion, it should be derived from Old Chinese rather than PT or PSWT since *ɡ doesn't occur. I didn't ever add Khmer in cognates. Proto-Austronesian *taRum (> Malay tarum) is nearer than Tai's lineage, but one preblem is that Old Khmer doesn't have the word; I cannot check how old it is. Otherwise, it might be borrowed from Malay. --Octahedron80 (talk) 08:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Octahedron80, Justinrleung:: I have edited the etymology section, leaving only the Chinese ancestor. I stuffed up the ping in the edit summary, so please review. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Atitarev: Thanks! — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 01:05, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Octahedron80, Justinrleung:: I have edited the etymology section, leaving only the Chinese ancestor. I stuffed up the ping in the edit summary, so please review. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- In my opinion, it should be derived from Old Chinese rather than PT or PSWT since *ɡ doesn't occur. I didn't ever add Khmer in cognates. Proto-Austronesian *taRum (> Malay tarum) is nearer than Tai's lineage, but one preblem is that Old Khmer doesn't have the word; I cannot check how old it is. Otherwise, it might be borrowed from Malay. --Octahedron80 (talk) 08:17, 5 May 2022 (UTC)