Talk:ყაყაჩო

Etymology

@Vahagn Petrosyan I was just reading on reduplicated syllables and Akaki Shanidze mentions that ყაყაჩო comes from ყაჩ-ყაჩ-ო but he doesn't mention Armenian roots, though he does mention some others which may have come from Armenian. Should it be considered that the borrowing could be reverse, or even developed on its own? He also says that for this, languages like Arabic also have reduplications, which is suspiciously close. Arabic ხაშ-ხაშ-ი (I don't know Arabic), so other origins are perhaps considerable. I want to know your thoughts on this, since you know etymologies far better than little amateur me knows. -Solarkoid (talk) 09:22, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Solarkoid: Until the ultimate origin is known, we cannot say who borrowed from whom. I rewrote the etymology using a more cautious language. --Vahag (talk) 11:02, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Okeydokey. There's also the word ყოჩივარდა (q̇očivarda) which I took suspicion in. -Solarkoid (talk) 11:13, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Solarkoid: In which book and on which page does Shanidze discuss ყაყაჩო? --Vahag (talk) 13:11, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: In his book "ქართული ენის გრამატიკის საფუძვლები". Though he doesn't discuss, he just notes it, while giving examples on other such reduplications. It's paragraph 182, under 'შენიშვნა'. This is what he says under that note:

"Some nouns show reduplication in root, however such parallels can be seen in other languages: ოფ-ოფ-ი (compare Latin up-up-a, Greek έπ-οπ-σ = έποψ or άπ-αψ-ός, Armenian յոպ-ոպ); პილ-პილ-ი (Armenian պղպիղ, պղպեղ with old pronunciation [Ig he means the old l change], Arabic-Persian fილ-fილ) ყა-ყაჩ-ო (*ყაჩ-ყაჩ-ო; Compare. Arabic-Persian ხა'შ-ხა'შ, which came into Georgian as: ხაშხაში, ღაჟღაჟი. Here we can mention: გუ-გულ-ი (compare Latin cu-cul-us) and პე-პელ-ა (compare Latin pa-pil-io)." -Solarkoid (talk) 13:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. You can now use {{R:ka:Shanidze:1980}} for referencing it. section= specifies the paragraph. --Vahag (talk) 16:05, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Ah! That's amazing! Thank you :D -Solarkoid (talk) 17:19, 30 August 2020 (UTC)