Talk:आढ्य

Hindi अड़ेवा (aṛevā)

@Bhagadatta, Kutchkutch: How is आढ्य -> Prakrit [Term?] अड्ढ -> अड़ेवा? Shouldn't it be *आढ / *आढ़ / *आढ़ा? Perhaps it's some Āgama of "व" in MIA. Will this etymology of अड़ेवा be fine - From {{inh|hi|pra-sau|*अड्ढिअवग}} (compare {{m|pra-sau|अड्ढ}}), from {{inh|hi|inc-ash|*आड्ढिय}} {{inc-ext|hi|va|ka}}, ultimately from {{inh|hi|sa|आढ्य}}.

@शब्दशोधक: The derivation of अड़ेवा (aṛevā) from आढ्य (āḍhya) is doubtful. The de-aspiration of /ɖʱ/ is tricky. You can add the above etymology but you need to put perhaps before it. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪^{(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴)} 02:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@शब्दशोधक, Bhagadatta: There appear to be several leaps of faith that would be required for अड़ेवा (aṛevā) ← आढ्य (āḍhya) to be true (CDIAL indicates this as (?)). An issue with the suggested etymology is that va / व / 𑀯 is considered as secondary hiatus-filler that is less productive than ya / य / 𑀬 (see 𑀣𑁄𑀅 (thoa)) rather than an extension. If this uncertainty needs to be indicated in the tree, perhaps the {{para|unc}} parameter of {{desc}} can be used. Kutchkutch (talk) 10:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kutchkutch:  Done. For Hindi etymology of अड़ेवा, I'll just say - Ultimately from{{der|hi|sa|आढ्य}} - is that fine? 🔥शब्दशोधक🔥 11:58, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@शब्दशोधक: Ultimately is very conclusive, so if the uncertainty needs to be indicated, Ultimately could be changed to Possibly, Probably, Compare, etc. Kutchkutch (talk) 12:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kutchkutch: Ok, I do so. @Bhagadatta: What about vriddhi derivative of root ऋध्? You only stated earlier that it doesn't make much sense. 🔥शब्दशोधक🔥 12:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@शब्दशोधक: Good catch, I did say that 😅. What was meant by this etymology was that the term is from ārdhya which is a vriddhi derivative of a certain formation of the root ऋध् (like ऋद्धि (ṛddhi) or ऋद्ध (ṛddha) plus a -ya extension or maybe an unattested one *अर्ध). We just don't know which one. I'll re-word it. -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪^{(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴)} 14:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)