Talk:نهره
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Etymology
[edit]Isn't its etymology related to پنیر ? also compare Ossetian нӕлхӕ. Tiptopply (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. @Slowcuber7, ɶLerman, Vahagn Petrosyan. In such constellations, Arabic etymologies (which I corrected to as equally likely Aramaic) in Persian philologists are more often fig-leaves anyway. Fay Freak (talk) 18:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- I can't research this right now, but I can say I find the sense development from "river" difficult. Vahag (talk) 18:15, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I have never studied Persian or Arabic. ɶLerman (talk) 18:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @ɶLerman: You created the Ossetian word, maybe you know more similar or related words in the environment. Fay Freak (talk) 19:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Fay Freak: The Ossetian form was needed for Proto-Nakh *naCxa or Proto-Vainakh. ɶLerman (talk) 19:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @ɶLerman: When is the age we can speak of a unified Proto-Nakh language? Glottochronology only gives me macrolanguages at a quick look, and w:Nakh languages says it separated in the 4th millenium BC. If the term is an Iranian borrowing (into Chechen and Ingush) and your group did not split into individual languages within the last two and a half millennia (otherwise it was borrowed into the proto-language) then you do not have a Proto-Nakh word as reconstructed there, and its etymology is answered. Fay Freak (talk) 19:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Fay Freak: Unfortunately, I don’t know when we can talk about a single Proto-Nakh language. I've heard from J. Nichols reports that the Proto-Nakh family is quite ancient, but divergence has been recent. She also said that speakers of the Proto-Nakh language arrived quite early in the Alazani Valley from the Caspian Seaside, with a further spread northward through the mountains. At least it is possible to restore the form of the Proto-Vainakh period. Due to lack of code, it is presented here as it is. ɶLerman (talk) 19:54, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Fay Freak: See цалх ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ɶLerman (talk) 20:50, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @ɶLerman: When is the age we can speak of a unified Proto-Nakh language? Glottochronology only gives me macrolanguages at a quick look, and w:Nakh languages says it separated in the 4th millenium BC. If the term is an Iranian borrowing (into Chechen and Ingush) and your group did not split into individual languages within the last two and a half millennia (otherwise it was borrowed into the proto-language) then you do not have a Proto-Nakh word as reconstructed there, and its etymology is answered. Fay Freak (talk) 19:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Fay Freak: The Ossetian form was needed for Proto-Nakh *naCxa or Proto-Vainakh. ɶLerman (talk) 19:19, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- @ɶLerman: You created the Ossetian word, maybe you know more similar or related words in the environment. Fay Freak (talk) 19:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- now I think we can add an additional version linking it to Proto-Indo-European *neyH- (“to make butter, churn”).
- i like it!
- i hope, we'll do good Slowcuber7 (talk) 11:21, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- these etymology trees are useless now. we got another good theory Slowcuber7 (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)