Talk:طيط

Etymology

The etymology currently given for طيط here in the Wiktionary strikes me as quite speculative. What is the source of the etymology? I have directly consulted the sources given at the entry (F. Corriente (2008) “Additions and corrections to A Dictionary of Andalusi Arabic”, page 68; J. P. Mandaville (2011) Bedouin Ethnobotany. Plant Concepts and Uses in a Desert Pastoral World, pages 108 and 320; the entry for طيط in the dictionary of Ibn Sīda al-Mursī, entitled Al-Muḥkam wa-l-Muḥīṭ al-Aʿẓam), and there is no etymological discussion in these sources. Hebrew טִיט "clay" itself has been treated as an Akkadianism in P. Mankowski (2000) Akkadian Loanwords in Biblical Hebrew. Mardinli Deli (talk) 23:18, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

@Mardinli Deli: My speculation to remove the request for etymology which would otherwise linger forever, since this word is barely even known to exist, hence the taedium to find these few references (on the web it seemed unused when I created the entry, but we know it is used from antiquity to this date; I assume you did not either before I informed you with this entry): We may assume it as positively known that there is no etymology proposed other than this. If you have a smarter explanation, of course go on.

Hebrew טִיט we put at as an inherited material name from Proto-Semitic *ṭīn-, which is a more usual view; ultimately the arguments for both sides are weak and this is hardly relevant for the etymology of other words deriving from that lexical item, as that “clay” word was widespread in the Northwest Semitic vernaculars early.

I have also just created the word form suffigation you objected to but could find in linguistic literature. Fay Freak (talk) 23:51, 3 September 2022 (UTC)