Talk:նախանձկոտ

@Vahagn Petrosyan is there any devoicing here in ձկ in EA? Hovsepig (talk) 02:02, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Hovsepig: for me both pronunciations are possible, but HUB does not mark any devoicing, therefore it is not standard. --Vahag (talk) 09:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: Thanks Vahagn. I can't tell if there's devoicing for me here. Maybe to safe, can you turn off the rule in your hy-pron code that allows devoicing in WA but not EA? Hovsepig (talk) 01:32, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hovsepig: So what would be the WA pronunciation of this word? --Vahag (talk) 14:18, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: if there’s no voicing assimilation process, then [naxants’-god] because ձ is [ts’] (where ‘ is aspiration] and կ is [g] Hovsepig (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hovsepig: But Sakapetoyan devoices ձկ, as in անձկ-. --Vahag (talk) 07:42, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: but he also keeps the voiced segment in թափանցկոտ as t’ap’ants’god. It seems his pronunciation dictionary does certain allophonic rules inconsistently, which might indicate that there’s variation, like how your Eastern judgments for նախանձկոտ allowed either a voiced or voiceless affricate :/ Hovsepig (talk) 07:53, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hovsepig: I suspect that the rule is that the devoicing does not operate in words suffixed with -կոտ (-kot). The family of անձկ- (anjk-) is from անձուկ (anjuk). This hack solves the problem. --Vahag (talk) 09:12, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

@Vahagn Petrosyan: lol nice hack. Actually I don’t think it’s anything special about կոտ. I think the rule is the same as in EA. The EA կոտ devoices a VC root like դանդաղկոտ. And the WA կոտ gets devoices after voiceless VC like վախկոտ. It looks like VCC roots get variably voicing behavior based on your first rely on this thread. Thanks for bearing with me 😅 Hovsepig (talk) 09:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)