Talk:язычный

@Atitarev, Cinemantique, Wikitiki89, Wanjuscha, Per utramque cavernam, Guldrelokk A bunch of questions about this term:

1. Formerly it had "language (attrib.), linguistic" as a definition. However, most dictionaries don't list this sense at all; Efremova is the only dictionary that lists it and she says it's dated.
2. Ruwikt has "quarrelsome, argumentative" as a dated definition but I can't find this anywhere.
3. It also appears to have the meaning "pagan", but I can't find that in any dictionary. What's going on here? Cf. this quote:

   [1]: "Национализм племенной язычен. Это не игра слов, напоминающая о том, что "язык" некогда значило народ, племя. Он язычен, как противухристианское понятие. Поэтому в христианской морали ему нет места, степени, графы".

Benwing2 (talk) 17:37, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Another example where it appears to mean "pagan" (and Google Translate translates it as such):

[2]: ... Владимир был язычнее самого Соломона из Ветхого завета. Следует согласиться, что число жен, а соответственно, и сыновей завышено, но пока неизвестно насколько. Мы считаем, что первая часть сообщения4 о посылке ...

Benwing2 (talk) 17:40, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

@Benwing2: About 3), it's certainly possible; see язы́ческий (jazýčeskij) and Wiktionary:Etymology scriptorium/2018/April § языческий. --Per utramque cavernam 17:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

::@Benwing2:: I'm having trouble finding good sources for some rare senses (3-5). Maybe we should RFV those? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 23:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Sure. As mentioned above, Efremova is a good source for definition 3. Benwing2 (talk) 23:17, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

@Atitarev See WT:RFVN. Benwing2 (talk) 00:55, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

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Senses 4 ("argumenative") and 5 ("pagan"). Benwing2 (talk) 00:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC) BTW a couple of examples that appear to mean "pagan" (and this is how Google Translate renders it):

1. [3]: "Национализм племенной язычен. Это не игра слов, напоминающая о том, что "язык" некогда значило народ, племя. Он язычен, как противухристианское понятие. Поэтому в христианской морали ему нет места, степени, графы".
2. [4]: ... Владимир был язычнее самого Соломона из Ветхого завета. Следует согласиться, что число жен, а соответственно, и сыновей завышено, но пока неизвестно насколько. Мы считаем, что первая часть сообщения4 о посылке ...

Benwing2 (talk) 00:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

RFV failed. — Mnemosientje (t · c) 15:24, 11 April 2019 (UTC)