Talk:Снегурочка

(Notifying Atitarev, Cinemantique, Useigor, Wikitiki89, Stephen G. Brown, Guldrelokk, Fay Freak, Tetromino, Per utramque cavernam): Can anyone help etymologize this word? It's a diminutive of Снегу́рка, but the -ур- part stumps me. Since the German equivalent is "Schneekind", I've looked for a word with the root ур- meaning "child" or "waif", but can't find such a word. Benwing2 (talk) 22:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

The only other word I can think of that has such an ending is печурка (pečurka), a diminutive of печора (pečora). I can find no evidence of a word *снегора (which would itself be difficult to explain), however. Per utramque cavernam 22:42, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Benwing2, Per utramque cavernam: I think it's some kind of rare suffix, see also дочу́рка (dočúrka). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:48, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Apparently, there are some variants of the name: Снегурушка (Sneguruška) and Снежурочка (Snežuročka)? Per utramque cavernam 22:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Possibly Снегурка was formed by analogy with дочурка. I can't find anything on the etymology. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Benwing2, Per utramque cavernam: печу́рка (pečúrka, “small stove (diminutive)”) possibly belongs there too but not печо́ра (pečóra, “cave”) cognate of пеще́ра (peščéra). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 22:56, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Benwing2, Atitarev: Maybe печу́рка (pečúrka) is actually the origin of the suffix? Per utramque cavernam 21:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Per utramque cavernam, Benwing2: If I were to decide on the origin, I would pick дочу́рка (dočúrka). --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 21:56, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Benwing2, Per utramque cavernam, Atitarev: This suffix is not particularly rare. Further examples are дочу́ра, дядю́ра, бабу́ра, Сашу́ра, Аню́ра, печу́ра (which is from печь (pečʹ), not печо́ра (pečóra)), кожура́, волчу́ра, немчура́. It is Common Slavic, along with the masculine variant *-urъ; see Vaillant Grammaire comparée IV, §1133. Guldrelokk (talk) 07:42, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Also attested is the source of the variant Снежу́рка ← снежура́. Guldrelokk (talk) 07:56, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Guldrelokk: Great, thank you! --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 08:46, 5 March 2019 (UTC)