Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/kuwu

Roots

Described in the KDJ as deriving as follows (from newest to oldest):

• keru (type 1 / 五段 from 四段)
• keru (下一段)
• ku(w)eru (下一段 from earlier 下二段)
• ku(w)u (下二段 )
• kuyu (下二段)
• koyu (下二段, possible alternative form? Dialectal form? Influenced by verb 越ゆ (koyu)?)

So unless we're hypothesizing that Proto-Japonic /keu/ somehow became OJP /kuyu/, the reconstruction is flawed. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 17:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

From NINJAL's OJ dictionary, indeed from a stem kuw-. Kwékwlos (talk) 05:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

@Kwékwlos, link?

Also, the KDJ entry here (in Japanese) points out the existence of alternative root form kuyu, appearing alongside kuwu in the same Nihon Shoki of 720. These might be alternative forms, or one may have developed from the other, I'm not sure. At any rate, the Ryukyuan branch points towards kuyu, not kuwu. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 00:33, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

http://oncoj.ninjal.ac.jp/list-of-words. Forgot to put in here. Kwékwlos (talk) 05:53, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Pinging @Chuterix -- see above, most of the Ryukyuan forms seem to reflect a root *kuy- instead of *kuw-. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 16:27, 31 May 2023 (UTC)