Reconstruction talk:Proto-Balto-Slavic/wārús
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The Lithuanian form has a short vowel rather than the long one that this form predicts. The Slavic noun is an o-stem according to Derksen, not a u-stem. Too many discrepancies to reconstruct a PBS form if you ask me. —Rua (mew) 21:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- The Slavic noun is an u-stem according to Nikolaev, not a o-stem. Gnosandes (talk) 21:48, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- So which of them is correct? —Rua (mew) 21:51, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Nikolaev is looking at the data of the dialects. Derksen had apparently(?) never worked with them. I don't know.
- *vȃrъ, gen, varũ. -ũ, with old traces of the dominant valence [+]. Proto-Balto-Slavic *wā̂ru-, the (AP) 2 Proto-Balto-Slavic accent paradigm (mobile accent). -ũ > -u with late recessive valence [-], also as in Wiktionary.
- See also: Dybo (2012) Proto-Balto-Slavic accentology system, and the results of the reconstruction of Proto-Indo-European accentological system.
- Zaliznjak, A. A. (2014), “Drevnerusskoje udarenije. Obščije svedenija i slovarʹ”, in Languages of Slavic Culture (in Russian), Moscow: Institute for Slavic Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Gnosandes (talk) 22:22, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- So which of them is correct? —Rua (mew) 21:51, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Kept as RFV tag was removed nearly 3 years ago. —Mahāgaja · talk 14:09, 21 August 2023 (UTC)