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Latest comment: 7 months ago by Theknightwho in topic RFM discussion: June 2024

RFM discussion: June 2024

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Renaming Kham (language) to Western Parbate Kham

The Kham languages are a family of four Sino-Tibetan languages spoken in Nepal. Currently, we name these:

  • Eastern Parbate Kham (kif)
  • Gamale Kham (kgj)
  • Sheshi Kham (kip)
  • Kham (kjl) - this should be Western Parbate Kham

There are two issues here (one, I hope, being obvious):

  1. This is a really ambiguous name, given the family is also called "Kham". There are, admittedly, occasionally times when a language family is named after one of its members, but they're pretty rare, and only happen when that language predominates in terms of cultural influence. That is not the case here.
  2. I have no idea why we gave Western Parbate Kham the name "Kham" in the first place. I checked whether this was another case of a code being split, the old code being given to one of the branches, and us forgetting to change the name for that code, but that doesn't seem to be what's happened: the code kjl was originally assigned the name "Western Parbate", and this was changed to "Western Parbate Kham" after a 2007 request ([1]). I see that the application form writes it as "Kham, Western Parbate", so maybe an old version of the ISO site had that, and someone mis-parsed "Kham" and "Western Parbate" as being two separate names. Who knows. In any event, the current version of the ISO site gives the name "Western Parbate Kham".

As for the affected entries, there are 4 at the moment, and only one is in an acceptable state (मोःरो, which even has the label "Western Parbate"). इ़ and ए़ both cite an Omniglot page about Eastern Parbate Kham, while gives no citations at all and is too ambiguous to cross-reference. The first should be kept, the second and third converted to Eastern Parbate Kham and the fourth deleted, in my view. Theknightwho (talk) 20:38, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Support. Benwing2 (talk) 04:02, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Support. Fay Freak (talk) 13:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Moved, given this seems to have been a mistake in the first place. Theknightwho (talk) 11:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply