Category talk:Buli (Ghana) language
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I suggest moving this to the more common form, Category:Buli language. This will entail changing the text of Template:bwu and updating a small number of entries. I will do this, if no one objects. - -sche (discuss) 20:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Support, Google Books gets zero hits for "Buli-Ghana" or "Buli-Ghana language"! "Buli language" doesn't get many but it would meet CFI, and of course "Buli" on its own gets more than that. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:35, 5 October 2011 (UTC)- oppose needs to be differentiated from
{{bzq}}, which is also called Buli. -- Liliana • 16:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)- Right. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- Good point. It would be good if an alternative name for one or the other language were attested, but AFAICT none is. - -sche (discuss) 04:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
- Right. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:33, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- oppose needs to be differentiated from
- Result: not moved. - -sche (discuss) 01:35, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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I kept thinking about this after the previous RFM (Wiktionary:Requests_for_moves,_mergers_and_splits#Category:Buli-Ghana_language), and I have an idea: what if we rename Category:Buli-Indonesia language to Category:Buli (Indonesia) language and Category:Buli-Ghana language to Category:Buli (Ghana) language (updating all templates, entries, etc as well)? that would make it clearer that particularly "Buli-Ghana" is not a language called "Buli-Ghana", but a language called "Buli" that is spoken in Ghana... or at worst, someone would interpret it to mean that it could alternatively be called Ghana, but it still seems to me less misleading than "Buli-Ghana". How many things would it break if we had parentheses in the language name? lol. If 0, let's rename... - -sche (discuss) 08:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
- But the problem is it would call for entries Buli (Ghana) and Buli (Indonesia), which are nonsense. -- Liliana • 21:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Why would it? —CodeCat 21:19, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- They would be linked in the langcatboiler template, that's why. (If we still linked language names in translation tables, that would've been be the other problem.) -- Liliana • 21:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- So? Our current structure calls for the entries Buli-Ghana and Buli-Indonesia, and someone might, in fact, wrongly create those entries, because they are easily misinterpreted as hyphenated language names just like A-Pucikwar, Aka-Bo, etc. In contrast, I think people can figure out that "Ghana", separated from "Buli" by a space and enclosed in parentheses, is a separate word. Also, it seems like the solution is to modify
{{langcatboiler}}. - -sche (discuss) 21:37, 8 April 2012 (UTC)- Or call them Buli and Buli. -- Liliana • 21:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- So? Our current structure calls for the entries Buli-Ghana and Buli-Indonesia, and someone might, in fact, wrongly create those entries, because they are easily misinterpreted as hyphenated language names just like A-Pucikwar, Aka-Bo, etc. In contrast, I think people can figure out that "Ghana", separated from "Buli" by a space and enclosed in parentheses, is a separate word. Also, it seems like the solution is to modify
- They would be linked in the langcatboiler template, that's why. (If we still linked language names in translation tables, that would've been be the other problem.) -- Liliana • 21:33, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Why would it? —CodeCat 21:19, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well, CodeCat has modified
{{langcatboiler}}to accept an entryname= parameter, so both categories now point to Buli. (Thanks, CodeCat!) The question is now: what looks better as a L2 header, ==Buli-Ghana== or ==Buli (Ghana)==? (I am currently rechecking to be sure neither language has an attested alternative name that would let us get around this.) - -sche (discuss) 22:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC) - Having looked through our language templates, I find that we use parentheses regularly, and hyphens only very rarely; the only other language I find that uses a hyphen is "Aja-Benin", and even it contrasts with "Aja (Sudan)"! I am going to rename these languages to use parentheses. - -sche (discuss) 00:55, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- Done. I have renamed the Buli languages and am about to rename Benin's Aja. - -sche (discuss) 01:35, 20 April 2012 (UTC)