Appendix talk:Chemical elements/English

Wikipedia

I love the idea. But we can try to use wikipedia list too, if possible (i.e. a link to a wikipedia list of elements).

Practicality

When I first looked at this page I thought it was great. But then I wondered about the practicality of including languages other than English. Have you thought about the consequences? After adding more and more languages the table will become wider and wider (I hate to scroll horizontally :-( ). We should either think about another format which allows inclusion of many languages, or we should get rid of the translations here and put them on the different "element pages". D.D. 15:40 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)

yes i knwo what you mean this was an old proejct i was doing, as i still had it i thought why not add it, tis not doig naything on my PC. I will try to think about when more langauegs are aded what to do. -fonzy

Use an (automatic) translator to other languages. This is a wikitrans to do.

interlang

There is something odd going on with this page. I wanted to add nl and eo to it, but the table on the edit page only shows English.

Polyglot 22:52 Mar 31, 2003 (UTC)

Other languages

• Where did all the columns with languages other than English go? They disappeared in the last two revisions. Polyglot 06:26 Apr 1, 2003 (UTC)
  • i got rid of them, as the table will get too big. the links will go to that entry, where transalations can go. -fonzy

• I agree that a multilingual table would become very difficult to manage or view. What we need is to create an index of appendices of chemical elements, with links to the appendices of chemical-element names for each language. The only ones I could find on Wiktionary right now though are here in English and "Appendix:Greek chemical elements." As things are organized on Wiktionary now, it is very difficult to find translations for multiple or all element names in a language, since one must go to each individual element's wikipage to look up the translations one by one. The elements are typically grouped together in the periodic table, so having them listed together in an appendix for each language makes translators' jobs much easier since they will do not have to look up the translations for each element name one at a time. Nicole Sharp (talk) 17:14, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

"Appendix:Greek chemical elements" now renamed "Appendix:Greek names for chemical elements" — Saltmarsh^{συζήτηση-talk} 16:21, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

element bot

• I do not know if it is possible, but it may be easiest if a bot could be programmed to automatically compile lists of of the element-name translations already available on Wiktionary. It can check the translation table for each element's entry in order of atomic number, e.g. hydrogen, helium, lithium, etc. and then produce a wikipage listing the translations in order by atomic number for each language code that has translations available across all of the entries checked. Incomplete or missing appendices can then have translations added manually. Nicole Sharp (talk) 17:23, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

• I just found this as well, which might be a good start: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Chemical_elements . However, the entries there are listed alphabetically, and not by atomic number. Nicole Sharp (talk) 07:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

"From: WT:RFC"

The appendix uses capitalized element names, some of which have German entries as their destinations (e.g. Roentgenium), and HTML tables instead of wiki tables. Rod (☎ Smith) 02:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

The element names are fixed now. --Ortografix 17:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Converted to wiki tables. Please check. --Ortografix 19:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

That's it. On Wiktionary, unlike Wikipedia, the first letter of an article-title is case-sensitive. And in German, all nouns are capitalized.--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 04:48, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Sortable table

The ordered table should be turned into a sortable table. 70.55.85.177 09:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

molecular elements

An Appendix:Chemical allotropes would be good... 70.55.85.177 12:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Color

I adjusted the coloring of parts of this table. I de-faded the background color for elements 113-118 (except 114), so that it would be in line with the rest of the table; while most of these elements hav not been empirically shown to have the properties their nominal category (other metal, halogen, noble gas), i accept them as part of their respectiv category, due to their position in the periodic table (for instance, i accept oganesson as a noble gas). (Even the superheavy "transition metals" [rutherfordium to copernicium] hav probably not yet been empirically proven to behave as such.) I also color-coded astatine and francium as synthetic; the Earth's crust contains perhaps grams of either, but perhaps a few metric tons each of two other "synthetic" elements (neptunium and plutonium), so i felt that counting neptunium and plutonium, but not astatine and francium, as "synthetic" would be a double standard. Okay? Solomonfromfinland (talk) 04:46, 20 July 2022 (UTC)