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Default language of templates that require a language

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  • Voting on: Whether templates that require a language (code) parameter should default to no language (invalid) in the case that no such parameter was added in the template call.
  • Vote starts: 00:01, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23.59, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Full support - Templates should never default to English - add the page to a cleanup category if the language is missing

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  1. Support —CodeCat 16:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Support, even though DCDuring is going to complain immigrants are oppressing English-only contributors. --Vahag 17:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Partial support - Templates should default to English only if they are {{context}} templates

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  • Support. I'm not sure a vote is in order at this time, as there hasn't been much discussion on this issue, so that people (myself, I assume, included) are going to vote without having seen all of the arguments in favor of the various options. (Also, the options are strange: what if someone wants English to be the default on only some other subset of templates, not precisely the {{context}} templates?) Nonetheless, since there is a vote, I'm voting for what I think is best. {{context}} templates take up valuable room on the definition line (in the wiki code) before the definition, so it is a shame to burden English definitions with the added code |lang=en. It is easy enough to make them default to English and to have KassadBot (the current auroformatting bot) add |lang=foo to all the foreign entries. (I'm no coder, but I've been assured that this is something the bot can do.)​—msh210℠ (talk) 17:34, 22 March 2011 (UTC) 16:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

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  1. Oppose Dan Polansky 08:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC) I am not convinced that we should write {{etyl|la|en}} instead of {{etyl|la}} in etymologies (non-context template). Nor do I want to write {{chemistry|lang=en}} instead of {{chemistry}}, or {{colloquial|lang=en}} instead of {{colloquial}} (context template). Right now, this vote does not provide any rationale that would make me switch to support or at least abstain. Thank you for the vote! --Dan Polansky 08:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Oppose This is the English Wiktionary, English should always be the default. (Good heavens, I actually agree with Dan P!) SemperBlotto 10:01, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Oppose. As discussed on the talkpage, this "oppose" option does not mean all templates should default to English, but, rather, means that the status quo whould prevail (no voted-upon rules, only common law). I oppose, then, simply because I've realized (because Dan's mentioned it (thanks, Dan)) that there's another template that I want to default to English: {{etyl}} (second parameter). I recommend that if another vote is taken on this issue it be on the {{context}} templates only: should they default to English (the status quo), default to an error (require |lang=en), or by default not categorize. Just a thought.​—msh210℠ (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Oppose Ƿidsiþ 17:53, 24 March 2011 (UTC) and I think it should, indeed, default to English.[reply]
  5. Oppose Mglovesfun (talk) 18:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC) for wording reasons initially. I like Ruakh don't want this to be a 'concept' with no detail on how to implement this. --Mglovesfun (talk) 18:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  6. Oppose Leasnam (talk) pretty much the same as all of the above.
  7. Oppose Daniel. 00:21, 4 April 2011 (UTC) Per Dan Polansky, SemperBlotto and msh210. --Daniel. 00:21, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abstain

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  1. Abstain. It might be useful to add pages to a cleanup category if it was a matter of incidental omission, but on the other hand, this is the English language Wiktionary, so the default is reasonable.--Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 08:59, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Abstain. I support in principle — even for context templates — but not without some explanation of how we intend to effect the transition. —RuakhTALK 17:27, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Abstain —Internoob (Disc•Cont) 18:33, 17 April 2011 (UTC) per Ruakh[reply]

Decision

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Fails: no new rule is implemented.​—msh210℠ (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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