Wiktionary:Feedback
This page is for collecting feedback from Wiktionary readers. It should be cleaned out on a three-month basis, as new comments are constantly being added. Feel free to reply to and discuss comments here, though bear in mind that the people who leave the feedback may never come back to read replies. By convention, the feedback is not archived.
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- Q. X isn’t a real word! Why do you have an entry for it?
- A. Like most dictionaries, Wiktionary describes and records how people use languages, and does not try to prescribe what is supposedly right or wrong. In some cases, labels are added to warn people that certain usages may be regarded as, for example, derogatory to some people or regarded by some people as proscribed (generally recommended not to be used). If you really feel that an entry should not in Wiktionary, discuss the matter with other editors at Wiktionary:Tea room. Alternatively, if you have done a search at websites such as Google Books and the Internet Archive and cannot find uses of the term, you can request for the entry to be verified at Wiktionary:Requests for verification (see that page for instructions).
- Q. Why don’t you provide audio files giving the pronunciations of all entries?
- A. The recording of audio files requires volunteer editors who have the right equipment and software, and who know how to upload these files to the Wikimedia Commons. All this is somewhat time-consuming, and it seems that at the moment we simply don’t have editors who are able to do this for us regularly. We suggest that you learn how to read the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) transcriptions of pronunciations. For English entries, you can visit Appendix:English pronunciation, which you can also reach by clicking on the “(key)” link next to the word IPA on entry pages.
- Q. How do I propose that a Wiktionary for another language be started?
- A. See incubator:Help:Manual.
September 2024
[edit]https://kakosepise.com/rec/desert-ili-dezert/
There may be an alternate pravopis added: dezert. Also the Croatian Language portal knows a link for dezert, linking to desert.
--Rasmusklump (talk) 10:59, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
are izneveriti and iznevjeriti the same words?
Serbocroatian: The entry rat as synonym for vrt (garden), I couldnt verfy it by several dicionaries or Links by google. Should it mean rt?
--Rasmusklump (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I would like to suggest that in seeking the correct spelling and usage of words, that there also should be correct and fluent examples of said usage grammaticlly expressed; e.g. I before E, a or an, etc. It would be a further help to everyone. — This unsigned comment was added by 2603:7080:553a:733e:6480:1aef:8528:d0cb (talk).
- We have entry for I before E, except after C. Denazz (talk) 18:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
Results
[edit]No, I don't want to "See also the other search results found."! You are driving me mad with that feature!!--Manfariel (talk) 02:09, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I like the feature Denazz (talk) 18:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
razočarati has an entry razočarano, in the wordlist
http://www.vokabeln.de/v3/vorschau/Kroatisch_Alltag.htm
there is an entry razočarno without fleeing a. Is this form also possible? — This unsigned comment was added by Rasmusklump (talk • contribs).
I think that you guys should title morphology on these words so that people like me can find the exact section of where the morphology of the word is. Thank you! — This unsigned comment was added by 108.48.85.75 (talk).
- Information about morphology of a word belongs in ===Etymology=== or ===Derived terms=== sections. Denazz (talk) 18:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
What's the origin or etymology of the Tagalog word "liham"? Explain in detail - thank you
Perhaps a dark mode, similar to that of Wikipedia. I was taken here through a hyperlink on a Wikipedia page regarding a latin word and it was a rather unpleasantly sudden flash of white background. "Chase"
- Dark mode is being rolled out, but I'm not sure when it will be enabled here: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/. In the short term, users can create their own CSS and apply it to this site. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
The following verbs should also be taken into consideration in this respect: - The door blew open/blew shut. - One of the tigers broke loose. - I'm ready to cut loose and enjoy the weekend. - They hung tough despite the hardships. - This simple idea holds true. - They married young. - Their jokes have worn thin.
October 2024
[edit]Wiktionary is a super cool project, and as a student I am going to recommend to my english teacher that as a fun project/extra credit assignment each member of the class make an account here, find a requested article on that tab, and make the article for that word to contribute. We shall see how it goes3 teens in a trench coat (talk) 18:50, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, @3 teens in a trench coat. May I suggest that instead of editing entries directly, you create "sandboxes" in your userspace and edit those instead? For example, instead of editing dictionary, create a page called "User:3 teens in a trench coat/dictionary" and edit that instead. The reason is that we have quite strict rules about the content of entries and how they must be formatted, and if you don't follow then you may find your edits reverted even before your teacher has had a chance to look at what you've done and given credit for it. Once you have finished editing your sandboxed entries, you can leave a message at "Wiktionary:Tea room" requesting for help to see if your changes can be incorporated into the actual entries. — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
I have written this elsewhere and shall keep writing it until it is fixed. One of the what appears to me ever-deepening problems with Wiktionary which also feeds into Wikipedia is the use of:
(Curly Brackets changed a bit so they don't automatically get wiki-formated)
"{.{lang|???|someword}.}" type links that do not seem to land properly on pages and show as BLUE/(LINKED) even when the language "ABC" (for example, Old English, "ang") used in the "{.{lang|ABC|commonwordinmultiplelanguages}.}" is not on that page, so the link should show in RED/(UNLINKED/BROKEN/NOT THERE).
These links are very troubling as it is suggesting that they are correct in what they land upon when clicked, when they most definitely ARE NOT many times when I look at them. I have a fairly good understanding of languages and etymologies, but there are plenty out there coming to Wiktionary who will not know that the destination landing of the link shows wrong information, and if and when they wise up to the fact, they will think Wiktionary is not a very reliable source of information.
These new-ish links are being used instead of the old way of linking using square brackets:
"[.[commonwordinmultiplelanguages#ABC|commonwordinmultiplelanguages].]" type links that land EXACTLY IN THE RIGHT PLACE when they are there, and show as RED/(UNLINKED/BROKEN/NOT THERE) when they are not!
It seems a perfectly good and working system has been replaced over the last couple of years with one that does not work properly even when the correct information is present, and suggests that it is there even when it is not. And this new-ish format has been used thousands upon thousands of times and so there is an ever-growing pile of rubbish links to fix building up.
I use Wiktionary a lot for its excellent etymology information that goes right back into Proto-Indo-European and similar, but all the hard work of all those good people who have contributed their free time to making Wiktionary a valuable resource are being let down by this rubbish format design. And now when I edit Wiktionary entries I feel loathe to use this newer format and add to the mess it is causing.
It feels to me like Wiktionary has been hijacked to provide some sort of languages research tool for some unknown parties behind the scenes, rather than a simple but accurate dictionary for the public that does exactly what it should do, and clearly show when the correct info is missing for the user (and thus editing additions are needed by editors) by showing dead RED links.
If my moaning needs further explaining please contact me for some clarification as I would love to help fix this. I am generally against over-complicating Wikipedia, but suffer it when it at least works in a way someone might find useful - this is over-complicating Wiktionary AND doesn't work, which is a double crime!
Rgds
Nobbo69 (talk) 03:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have no perspective on the main point you're making, but please do use the
nowikitag for these code examples instead of curly brackets. Just start with "<nowiki>" and end with "</nowiki>" and the text in between will not be converted into links. E.g. To insert a link, put in [[example]]. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Good morning everyone,
In the German section of this page, Etymology 2 paragraph, "Alsace" doesn't have a link. I have tried to edit the relevant template sections to fix this, but I'm not allowed, so the work falls back to you. What I have found out is that Alsace does not appear in the German section of the Template:label/list page. My guess is that adding the Alsatian template from the Alemannic German section, to the German section, should solve this problem.
Disclaimer : I'm Alsatian and I'm a little bit sad that Alsace doesn't have a link while everyone else does :)
Thank you, have a nice weekend.
Yours sincerely 2A02:8428:6E68:3D01:A50B:1E19:883D:5860 07:33, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
I have not found a thesaurus that I am satisfied with. I switch back and forth between thesaurus.com and Wikisaurus (this place), and while these two are the top contenders, neither is perfect. Thesaurus.com has way more narrow entries, but the bombardment of ads deters me. Wikisarus is more comprehensive and lacks ads, but I often can't find a page for the specific word I'm looking for.
That is why, whenever I can, I intend to add entries to Wikisaurus. The UI and the format of this place is unlike any other, and I believe it could become my №1 choice for a thesaurus. --Diriector Doc (talk) 21:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your work. If you have any other suggestions on how we can improve the thesaurus, please let us know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
To the wikipedia editors who have made this article; I love you. Yours sincerely, random reader.
- On behalf of the wikipedia editors... We love ALL random readers P. Sovjunk (talk) 11:00, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Wait up, did you say Wikipedia? We're Wiktionary, so I take the message backP. Sovjunk (talk) 11:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
A category with "nounses" in the title? This looks like a typo to me. --2001:9E8:D4A5:4A00:ED2:92FF:FED1:D909 18:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Benwing2:, as you created this. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf: he didn't, his bot did, as part of its routine patrolling of Special:WantedCategories. It looks like the category was added to some entry by mistake, and Wingerbot found the redlink in WantedCategories before the error was corrected. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:25, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
Word of the day: embarrassingly parallel
[edit]How do we call it the 'Word' of the Day when it is a 2 word 'phrase'? (Referring to 10/25: "embarrassing parallel") Faunamferenbach (talk) 18:08, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Faunamferenbach: "Term of the day" isn't really that catchy … — Sgconlaw (talk) 21:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Prim as in prim and proper was originally an insult referring to Primitive Methodists (a radical break away from mainstream Methoedism) and later was used to describe anyone who was straight laced, anti-drink etc. rather than just members of that sect
Yay Ft
Good article
HI, DERECT ME IN THE BOX — This unsigned comment was added by 216.124.161.130 (talk).
- YOU ARE IN IT NOW. HOW CAN WE HELP? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- YOU WERE IN MY BOX! I HOPE YOU LIKED IT. P. Sovjunk (talk) 20:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
There is another definition for mam at https://hjp.znanje.hr/index.php?show=search_by_id&id=e1xlWhk%3D
1. ono što mami, mamljenje, velika privlačnost čega, neodoljivost koja privlači 2. čin, radnja, zvuk itd. koji mami [legenda o sirenama počiva na vjerovanju u mam muzike i njeno opojno djelovanje]
As far as I understand the 2nd meaning is "siren song".
Maybe someone knows and can add the 2nd meaning...?
November 2024
[edit]It's "Bannerghatta Biological Park" instead of Bannerughatta National Park. — This unsigned comment was added by Prisharma11 (talk • contribs) at 00:14, 3 November 2024.
- @Prisharma11: I think you meant to post this comment at the English Wikipedia, not here at the English Wiktionary. Anyway, according to the article "w:Bannerghatta National Park", the Bannerghatta Biological Park is a "small portion" of the National Park. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Also used to describe particular problems "the evil complained of", "the social evil" (sex work/prostitution), others I'm not recalling now. 69.202.207.228 00:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Already there as sense 2 of the noun. Arafsymudwr (talk) 07:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
This entry states the origin of the English word is the identical Spanish word but the definition given is Baggy knee-breeches worn for horseriding in Brazil. Can someone confirm the Brazil part? It seems to me that if such pants were worn only in Brazil, we wouldn't use a Spanish word for them. (I found this entry by following an interwiki link to bombacha in the Wikipedia article Gaucho. —71.105.243.101 08:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Also used extensively on the Isle of Wight to refer to tourists. 2603:8001:2C3F:8B15:4426:403A:C5A5:4D9 14:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
The Thanksgiving holiday that is celebrated today has gone through many changes. What has remained constant is the coming together of family and friends to appreciate life’s blessings and the connection that we have with those around us. — This unsigned comment was added by 198.133.125.137 (talk).
- Can't argue with that. No idea what it has to do with Wiktionary, but that's a nice sentiment. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:39, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Please do not add the current Wikipedia's search bar without modification to Wiktionary. The space for images is almost useless for the majority of entries and expands each line too much. 64.66.217.198 23:31, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would be inclined to agree with you, but I don't think any one of us here is able to make that decision. The WMF designers just tell us they know better. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 23:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
new page layout of wiktionary
[edit]I would like to give some feedback on the new page layout of Wiktionary; I think it's a net downgrade: - the "contents" section, at the beginning of the page, is now hidden, making it extremely frustrating and time-consuming to navigate humongous pages of words that are shared by dozens of languages, and impossible to see at-a-glance if the page even has the correct language I'm looking for -- this change is especially damaging, and I find the trend of hiding everything into submenus just ridiculous; - the search bar is hidden, making it one click further from being used (which is a big deal to people like me who spend hours on Wiktionary every day, searching hundreds of words); - the new icons are hidden when DarkReader is in use (in both dynamic and static mode), which is also in part your doing, since the website doesn't have a dark mode, and worked just fine before.
Sorry if my feedback sounds harsh, but as an efficiency-driven user, I just can't possibly fathom how one can look at this new page layout and deem it an upgrade. There is, in my eyes, no improvement, under any possible perspective.
The service and content itself is invaluable -- thanks for maintaining it! But please, revert this anti-user UI.
93.34.149.123 15:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
layout change (dislike)
[edit]Given how hard this new layout is to use and how often I need to check this site, I'm probably going to need to write filters to redo the whole thing clientside, which is just incredibly exhausting. This really exacerbates what has always been the biggest issue with the site, namely that if you're using it for anything other than looking up words from one of the three or four languages with good Wiktionaries on their native-language version of the site, navigation is almost entirely about the sidebar, which is designed to be maximally cumbersome to use: perpetually hidden on mobile, nearly unusable on desktop without switching from the keyboard to a pointing device. Now you're hiding this on desktop at the slightest provocation? The width threshold at which you hide the sidebar is so high it's flabbergasting: it's as though you can't wait to be rid of this most essential element to the site. Personally, I would rather read a 150px wide viewport than not have the sidebar visible at all times, but I recognize that that's a bit excessive; nonetheless, if you're going to add all this whizzbang configuration, maybe you should prioritize the configurability of this stuff over text sizing, a feature every browser has had built in since before Javascript or CSS existed. (Building text-size controls into one's website is best understood as a limp apology for having a layout that resizes poorly.)
All this stuff seems to be somehow tailored to "accessibility", and yet compared to a website from 2004, it's atrocious for accessibility: the destructive panic as soon as the window feels slightly crowded is bad for people who need large text, the constant mandatory pointing and clicking is bad for people with reduced dexterity, and the decision to funnel what few choices there are through cookies means that if you delete cookies or happen to be in a private window, you get bombarded constantly with the spammy settings popup even if you're happy with the defaults. Wikimedia is still better for site design than most of the modern web; but it's never been worse.
70.51.88.209 04:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
I find the default ('standard') width to be too narrow—both uncomfortably unfamiliar, and a suboptimal use of space—compared to the old design, which as I recall was akin to 'wide'. The sidebar being missing/collapsed by default also leads to the page width being inconsistent between pages with and without section ('Contents') labels. - 86.18.111.58 06:05, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Search field changed (dislike)
[edit]Previously the search field was in the opper right side of the windows, and it was "dynamic", meaning that word suggestions were appearing while typing, helping me when I was not sure about the correct writing of a word. Now the search fild changed its position, and that's not so bad, but it lost the helpig feature, no more hints while typing. Please help. Salvazzo (talk) 08:57, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- I can see that the search field is still available, with a working "hint" feature. But it is hidden under the magnifying lens symbol. It just needs a click on the magnifying lens. It works, but the previous layout was better, IMAHO. Thanks Salvazzo (talk) 09:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
December 2024
[edit]Word of the day: tip of the iceberg
[edit]It should read On this day 65 years ago in 1959... —71.105.243.101 01:25, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Fixed—thanks! — Sgconlaw (talk) 02:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Hello! This is a very useful and wonderful site I use every single day. However I find a lot of the sexual content very graphic and even disturbing when I'm researching things that are quite innocent-- this even becomes triggering, honestly.
I would be extremely appreciative if there would be a way to flag graphic content so users would have the option of muting it if they didn't want to see it?
Thank you very much!
Queerness: 210.6.63.37
[edit]Hello, I'm MarcoToa 0425.
The meaning 'the state of being gay, gayness' is missing in this entry. Meaning 3 should be considered to be offensive, according to the usage of the word queer is only OK to use by homosexuals (themselves) only.
Please fix it.
But there is no problem in the meanings 'the state of being odd'. MarcoToa 0425 (talk) 13:36, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- 210.6.63.37
- The word gash.
- The derogatory meaning 'a woman regarded as a sex object' is missing. MarcoToa 0425 (talk) 13:36, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
I like this funny little word
Definition #2 should contain the italicized header "onomatopoeic".
Unfortunately, I hate it. At logical width of 1104.5 px (2x real pixels, 3000 × 2000 px Hi-DPI screen scaling at 200%) I get switched to mobile view and I can't find search bar at first glance, there is no ToC visible, there are two hamburger-like menus (menu and ToC) right under each other. Half of the screen is blank anyway, due to how content is formatted on Wiktionary - you could easily fit 3 columns in my case.
Please at least make the cutoff for mobile view at 950 px (half width of FullHD/1920px minus some pixels for any screen borders, etc.). It would help desktop users like me a lot.
For reference, on Firefox with the new vertical tabs and window on half of the screen I get 744.5 logical px (1489 real px) of width. That could still comfortably fit ToC.
I feel the search would be better on its own line and always expanded, or at least having frame to simulate presence of input field, as that's what users are subconsciously looking for when searching for a search input - a blank rectangle with clear border.
Tracerneo (talk) 12:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Wiktionary is an amazing tool and i've been using it for years without any issues. But i recently tried to use the book creation function to compile a list of entries for personal use and was appalled to find out it isn't saved across sessions. Can i ask what the rational for this is?
I implore you to please fix this issue and allow users to compile and manage any number of books they desire. I've invested an ungodly amount of my time searching for this exact functionality across platforms and this is the only one that actually works as i intend.
Lots of love, Luis
- Someone has asked the same question at "Wiktionary:Grease pit/2024/December#Any possibility of allowing users to manage multiple books across sessions?" and it has been answered. If it wasn't you who posted on that page, have a look at that discussion. — Sgconlaw (talk) 17:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
It would be useful, if possible, if a user could choose a preferred language before pressing your "Random entry" button, and the button then works across that language rather than across the whole site. Otherwise is generates a lot of entries irrelevant to the user. Thank you. Colin McLaughlin (talk) 06:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC).
- @Colin McLaughlin: see Wiktionary:Random page. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Good. Thanks. I shall look on that as a Christmas present.
How do people who hit the Random Entry button know there's a Language Selection page, though? Should that have some prominence on the left, too? Colin McLaughlin (talk) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)- You could certainly propose that at, e.g. Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2024/December. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Good. Thanks. I shall look on that as a Christmas present.
I have a wikimedia ID. Can I get this "Klarmstrongmd ID" switched over so as to have a single password within Wikimedia? ps: I am old and forgetful.
- @Klarmstrongmd: I'm not sure what exactly you want to do, but maybe this page will help: "m:Help:Unified login". — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)