User talk:Volants

Hi! It's a bit late to welcome you, as you seem to have found your way around well already - but for the sake of prosperity: Welcome to Wiktionary, and thank you for the work you're doing with German. Fancy adding a {{Babel}} box to your userpage at some point? For future reference, our main policies are at WT:ELE and WT:CFI, and other guidelines can be found scattered aroudn the place. You may wish to look at WT:ADE for information on German. Conrad.Irwin 15:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

!Xóõ

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for deleting the !xóõ entries that needed to go. I will be marking more for deletion in the near future. It would be greatly appreciated if you, at your leisure, would delete those as well, as they are marked. This is, of course, entirely up to you, but it'd be a huge help. There aren't that many left that need to be deleted. -- Xoolanguage

OK. No problem--Volants 16:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC).

Analphabetin, Anhäufung

Analphabetin is the female form of (deprecated template usage) Analphabet, therefore female. Tbot knew that from the translation section of (deprecated template usage) illiterate and/or from de:Analphabetin, you changed it. The genitive and plural form of Anhäufung are completely regular as for all female nouns ending in (deprecated template usage) -ung. de:Anhäufung shows them also correctly; no idea where your versions came from. (deprecated template usage) Apogäum is another example where you changed the gender incorrectly. While we all certainly appreciate any kind of enthusiasm and while I, in particular, am guilty of having made very similar mistakes, you might want to check the information available online, for example in the German Wiktionary or at leo.org, if you are not entirely sure. Thank you. -- Gauss 20:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC) I am not surprised that such errors happen if you make edits at a rate of (I counted) 198 edits in 80 minutes (15:30-16:49). Also, every German noun has a gender (sometimes two). Countries such as (deprecated template usage) Armenien) are usually of neutral gender; one could say Das schöne Armenien liegt im Kaukasus. -- Gauss 20:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I think, that I have understood this mistake. You have right and I will be more cautious in the future. --Volants 11:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

FitBot in Portuguese

Hi, I'm interested to run a bot, who generates Portuguese verb forms, similar to your User:FitBot. I already downloaded this Python stuff and the codes from yours and SemperBlotto's bots, which I will change in order to suit Portuguese. What will be the next step, in the process of running my bot? --Volants 08:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Some steps that need to happen:

• You'll need to be able to run Python programs. If you've downloaded "all the stuff", that may not include a format in which it can be run on your computer. If you're using a UNIX or LINUX computer (or a Mac), then you're set already. If you're using a PC, you may need to talk to User:SemperBlotto for any assistance with this, as he has a PC. The Python programs run on your local computer, and pass information to the Wiktionary servers, so you need to be able to run Python code on your computer.
• You'll need a template for each regular conjugation. If you've read the documentation for FitBot and SemperBlotto's bots, then you've seen the start/stop code and the bit in between. I have a full txt document template on my machine for each conjugation pattern that I've added. That can mean 50 or more of those start/stop units in a single txt file, with replaceable dummy text for each verb form.
• You need to create a bot account, and set up documentation as Semper and I have.
• You'll have to do a careful test run of the bot. The best way to do this is to find a verb whose spelling/conjugation differ sigificantly from existing Spanish or Galician entries. This makes checking and cleanup much easier in case something goes wrong. Watch the run carefully to be certain each verb form is added correctly and under the correct pagename. You have to re-do this step each time you generate a new conjugation pattern template, and it's a good idea to watch the results of the run each time anyway. Sometimes a bot run aborts while incomplete, or the server may interfere with the addition of one or more verb forms in some way.
• Announce your intentions to the community, and invite them to inspect your code / test run.
• Start a WT:VOTE to have your bot given the bot flag, which will allow your bot to run without being blocked and without clogging up Recent Changes with all the additions. Each new task performed by a bot much be community approved. So, if you've acquired permission for your bot to conjugate Portuguese verbs, then that's all it should do. If you would like to expand your bot functions, you'll need to repeat from step 4 for that new function.

You can read more at Wiktionary:Bots, but the steps above aren't altogether clear from that page, unless you read very carefully and have programming experience related to running a bot. Wiktionary is very wary of permitting new bots, in part because of the massive amount of damage they can do in a short time. So, be forewarned that a relative newcomer, such as yourself, may not get a bot flag. This can come from not knowing the technical abilities of the new person, or from the fact that the new person is not aware of community norms or of some of the issues involved in page format. It's also much harder for a non-admin to clean up a situation where a bot went wrong, and newcomers aren't usually admins (yet). --EncycloPetey 15:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

pt-verb and pt-conj

I see you already discovered that {{pt-conj}} is working. Good. I wouldn't forget to notify you, but I couldn't make it sooner. There are some new functions, see beijar de língua for example. And please note that there is a new template called {{pt-verb}} to substitute the functions of {{infl|pt|verb}}. --Daniel. 18:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Excellent work. I'm pleased about the simplicity of these templates. Also, I hope that soon I can try again with User:Volantsbot. I didn't have a lot of time, for managing the bot, but all the bot informations are still available. Volants 07:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

divorciar

Recently, {{pt-conj}} was acting very strangely at the entry divorciar (the symptoms included total lack of the show/hide function and some ugly formatting). Upon some research, I discovered that it was because an asterisk. Anyway, perhaps you would like to know that it's now fixed; the asterisk was successfully removed. --Daniel. 12:39, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I have noticed that. Thanks. Congratulations for this succesful asteriskectomy! I can see, divorciar has made a full recovery! I think that this asterisk was a foreign body, and how can we say, a slip of my mouse? If there are any more similar surgeries to be operated, I will don my rubber gloves and tackle the punctuation with my wiki-scalpel! --Volants 10:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup

I have reverted your stikes because a quick check shows many of the problems you struck have not been dealt with. Please do not strike items that have current problems. --EncycloPetey 16:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, this is unfortunate. It was a lot of work ;(. I apologise for that. I striked only entries whose RFC tag has been removed. As a rule, if the specific issues had been cleaned up, I striked it. Is this not conventional? Please don't revert my archving, it's taken ages!--Volants 16:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

especially, please not this one, as I haven't striked it was another people. --Volants 16:46, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

The second list looks fine, but in your previous work, you struck many items whose problems had not been corrected. It is good to help with cleanup, but the problems have to be corrected before an item is struck and removed from the list. --EncycloPetey 17:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, in the future I will be more vigilant about this. And I will work with other areas of Wiktionary. --Volants 12:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

admin? bot?

Hello Volants. I've seen you've made a lot of good edits. Would you liked to be nominated for adminship? Also, while I'm hear, I noticed you have/had a bot. Is that not working any more? Seeing as we have Spanish, Italian, French, Latin and Galician bots already, I'm sure a Portuguese one would be easy to set up. I'll help you out if you have questions about it (about running a bot, that is, not Portuguese [or Polish]). --Rising Sun talk? 23:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the adminship offer, but I'm still learning here and must refuse. --Volants 12:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

For the bot, I would like to run it again. I think I will try to ask somebody to unblock it, then I can try again. Maybe after the Christmas holiday end. --Volants 12:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, maybe it would be useful to be an administrator. If you like, you can nominate me --Volants 15:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

And 2 months later, there's a vote - please accept at Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2010-02/User:Volants for admin. p.s. I can't help you out anymore with the bot. But thanks for the message --Rising Sun talk? 05:57, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to sysophood. Please add an entry at Wiktionary:Administrators.

May I ask that you always have a second session open on Recent Changes whenever you are editing Wiktionary. You may mark good edits as "patrolled", revert vandalism and stupidity by either deleting new entries or by using the "rollback" function. You may block vandals at your own discretion.

Note: As there are times when no sysop is active, it would be useful if you start your patrolling from the time you last left the system. Cheers. SemperBlotto 19:29, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll add an entry there, and will patrol, I hope these tools can improve my editing --Volants 14:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

After we have reverted a bad edit, should we also then mark the bad edit as patrolled? --Volants 15:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes. patrolled just means "nothing to be dealt with here". Conrad.Irwin 15:37, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

German verb forms

Hello, for German verb forms you should use {{de-verb form of}}, which is easy to use and automatically adds all relevant categories. -- Prince Kassad 14:45, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Is it easy to use? It doesn't tell me the way to use it! I'll look later. I'll experiment with gehe. --Volants 14:49, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

It now has an explanation if you didn't figure it out yet. -- Prince Kassad 14:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Acronym categories

Hey, Volants. Please see this edit to see our current standard format for these categories. 50 Xylophone Players talk 14:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought there would be a more automatic way, but I guess not --Volants 13:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Seizing control

Hi. As per your request, I've started using my bot to generate Portuguese entries. Please check the edits - my canary was agasalhar. Please check any missing sections/doubled sections/incorrect information. And if you know of any easy way of including pronunciation, let me know --Rising Sun talk? contributions 05:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Also abandonar --Rising Sun talk? contributions 05:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

abandonar has many mistakes. I hope that these are not repeated in other verbs. Your bot has created a double section in Portuguese - see this edit, where it looks as if it were attempting creation of a French page. And I cannot help you with pronunciation. Try to ask User:Daniel. about hyphenation, which is quite simple. --Volants 12:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Votes/2010-04/Voting policy

I urge you to vote. (I don't know which way you'll vote, but I want more voices, especially English Wiktionarians' voices, heard in this vote.) If you've voted already, or stated that you won't, and I missed it, I apologize.​—msh210℠ 17:01, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps I am too late. --Volants 13:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:pt-adv

You probably shouldn't do tests on a template that's in use. Perhaps create {{pt-adv/Test}} (or /Sandbox). Mglovesfun (talk) 10:35, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

OK. Reverted. It was {{pl-adv}}, actually. ACCEL is very complicated! --Volants 10:36, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome

Thank you for the welcome note you sent to my talk page. Your helpful and collegiate attitude is a credit to Wiktionary. In ictu oculi 13:29, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. It is a shame that all of your work has been deleted from Christadelphian. I think, this is a good example of when a new user is overwhelmed by the large quantity new messages. I would like to look again at your edits, and include some of the edits into the translation tables. --Volants 22:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Rather, thank you. It wasn't a large quantity of new messages, it's simple my policy to withdraw quickly when I come across a combative individual. I must say it seems silly to be generating a lot of work for others (duplication) over what could have a very simple quiet visit, edit, move on. But then I can understand en.wiktionary can have a different culture from en.wikipedia. Btw Polish "chrystadelfiańskich" (aj.gen.pl.) is out there on forums, and is a grammatically correct derivation from the noun in the same way as "luterański" and so on. In ictu oculi 03:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. Can I assume that you've taken User:Mglovesfun as the combative individual? He's a very good user, I think, but I haven't been interacting much with him. As you can see, User:Stephen G. Brown is even better! He's the best linguist on this website. For the Polish translations, I'm only a learner, so I cannot help more. Also, I don't know Wikipedia culture, but I hope that you will continue harmonious editing! I think, we don't need any more combative users! --Volants 08:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have my toe back in the water and will see whether it gets bitten again. The good news about Polish is that once someone is reasonably fluent in that they can more or less get by in Czech and Slovak too. Cheers. In ictu oculi 12:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I haven't heard this interesting idiom before - dip one's toes in the water. I think that we "bite" newbies often here like the piranha - most newbies are stupid. I think, I've added some Czech entries here, and will attempt to learn it after Polish. --Volants 12:27, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

:) In ictu oculi 19:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

chorszy

Hi. I have deleted "chorszy", because it's wrong. Correct comparative form of "chory" is "bardziej chory". Maro 21:23, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. It appears, that I must study these comparative forms further. --Volants 22:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Christadelphian

Hi Volants. Did you see my comment on User talk:In ictu oculi#Christadelphian about the Danish translation, before re-adding it? I would really like to see some evidence for its use, besides the Danish Wikipedia.--Leo Laursen – (talk · contribs) 10:45, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

triploidies

I have never seen (deprecated template usage) triploidy used in a plural form. --EncycloPetey 18:21, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I have seen it! I don't understand anything that is in the books, but it exists. --Volants 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

patines

Sorry, why delete this just to recreate it? It does exist in French and I think in Spanish too. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

It was incorrectly called a noun, when it is clearly a verb. I used ACCEL to create it correctly. What's the matter? --Volants 20:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

It had a French section and a Spanish section. I just restore it and changed the ===Noun=== header to ===Verb===. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

ok, now i see. --Volants 20:13, 15 July 2010 (UTC)