User talk:T039mwftulnm0l
Idk how much wiktionary is trying to be machine-traversable, but, if it is, in general it's worse to have m tags because they are ambiguous as to whether they're related to the page's word. So "from Latin ex- and lūcidus (“clear”)" is unfortunate. Is prefix acceptable even if the language isn't the page's word's language? I.e. when it represents both a derivation and a decomposition into prefix and stem? I.e., could we instead write "from ex- + lūcidus (“clear”)"? T039mwftulnm0l (talk) 07:34, 24 November 2021 (UTC)T039
Hey and thank you for contributing to Wiktionary!
Re: "I'm not sure whether to put der or bor or inh. Is it better not to edit until I know that it's specifically not borrowed or inherited, or is der a strict improvement over etyl?" General consensus is that {{etyl}} should not be mass-replaced with {{der}}. See for instance this discussion: Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2021/September#User:Donnanz’s_etyl_clean-up_methods
To give you a quick overview:
{{inh}}is used when a word comes from an ancestor language with usage never having stopped entirely: house inherits from Middle English hous and further from Old English hūs. Use{{inh}}for as long as the inheritance chain continues. Be aware that grammatical alterations at an earlier stage stop the inh chain.{{bor}}is used when a term is borrowed directly into the language from another language: schadenfreude borrowed from German Schadenfreude.{{der}}is used when the borrowing happened at an earlier stage down the etymology chain: singular first inherited from Middle English singuler, which in turn borrowed from Old French.
This covers the basics. There are also {{ubor}}, {{lbor}}, {{slbor}}, {{sl}}, {{calque}}, {{pcal}}, ... which you can read more about on the corresponding pages. When you're on their pages, you can also click "What links here" on the left-hand side to see some article making use of them if you want to see some examples.
If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to contact me! Fytcha (talk) 19:34, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- > General consensus is that
{{etyl}}should not be mass-replaced with{{der}} - Thanks! This answers my question. (Thanks for fixing my erroneous edit as well.) T039mwftulnm0l (talk) 13:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)