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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Qiu Ennan in topic Your L1

Please stop adding wrong pronunciations!

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On "militarily" you stressed the wrong syllable. On "media" you got the middle vowel wrong (and deleted an existing pronunciation that was fine). Equinox 15:00, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Militarily is meant to be stressed on the first syllable in British English according to the Oxford Dictionary - for media, the existing one was wrong (it was | ˈɔːdiəns | when it's meant to be | ˈɔːdɪəns |) Qiu Ennan (talk) 15:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
By the way, do you mind if I put my pronunciation back for media? It corresponds to | ˈmiːdɪə | (the pronunciation given by the Oxford Dictionary) Qiu Ennan (talk) 15:11, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
I disagree and will start a discussion at WT:BP. Equinox 15:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
When I listen to your clips, you are stressing the second syllable of "militarily"; and your middle vowel in "media" sounds much more like /eɪ/. If you have a particular accent like (say) Hong Kong, you need to make this clear on your audio or it is very misleading. Equinox 15:25, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
I've listened to them again, and I don't think my pronunciation matches that IPA. Let's wait for other people to weigh in. By the way, I don't have a particular accent, I'm just pronouncing the words according to the IPA Qiu Ennan (talk) 15:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
We all have accents, and that is an inescapable fact. As a native British English speaker I have reverted all of these, as the recordings simply don't match how the words are actually said in the UK (in any region). Audio pronunciations where you specify a particular accent practically require that you actually do have that accent, as they're so difficult to get right. Theknightwho (talk) 23:14, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
My pronunciations match those given by the Oxford Dictionary, and if you're going to say they don't, then you must elaborate and explain which part does not. Besides, I do speak British English - so I do have this accent. Qiu Ennan (talk) 02:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi, just trying to help convey the problem a bit: Wiktionary is a descriptive source, which means that the listed IPA is a transcription of how people actually say a term, not a prescription for how they should say it. This means that if you add an audio pronunciation of a term you should say it the way you normally say the word, not by artificially conforming your pronunciation to whatever the OED (or Wiktionary itself) states. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 14:58, 31 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Oh okay, that's what I thought I should do, but then I feel like if I do that, my pronunciation might not match the standard one given? Qiu Ennan (talk) 00:50, 1 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
That's fine (and encouraged). Just add a note stating what accent it is. Theknightwho (talk) 00:57, 1 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Okay; by the way, I don't think all the pronunciations I added were wrong (i.e. octane and homoeostasis), so can you reinstate them? I don't think those needed to be removed. Qiu Ennan (talk) 02:14, 1 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Babel

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Greetings, would you add {{Babel}} to your user page? It is not mandatory, but useful. --Dan Polansky (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sure, how do you do that? Qiu Ennan (talk) 15:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
You place somethings like of {{Babel|en|fr-4|de-2|ru-1}} to your user page. At a minimum, you can use {{Babel|en}} if applicable. --Dan Polansky (talk) 15:41, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
All right, I added it to my user page Qiu Ennan (talk) 15:47, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Militarily

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In , I hear something like "militali". No matter how hard I try, what I hear seems wrong. I listened to audio from M-W online for militarily and it sounded right. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

This blocked user is asking that their block be reviewed:

Qiu Ennan (block logactive blockscontribsdeleted contribsabuse filter loguser creation logchange block settingsunblock)


Request reason:

description of my edits as 'vandalism' by the admin who blocked me were not justified; my audio files match the IPA given by the authoritative Oxford Dictionary; I am a native British English speaker and I did not start edit wars - I only undid removals of my edits when there was no good reason given.

Your L1

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What is your L1? And how would you feel about Englishman recording Chinese audio? Equinox 03:59, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'm half-British, mate. And English is my first language. Also, yes, I wouldn't mind Englishmen recording Chinese audio if it was actually correct. Qiu Ennan (talk) 04:07, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Also, why did you revert my edit on 'temporarily'? Which part is wrong? Please explain. Qiu Ennan (talk) 04:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Wait, why did you block me again? That's ridiculous; I made two good-faith, helpful edits and that's vandalism? Qiu Ennan (talk) 04:16, 4 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

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Request reason:

Equinox has removed my contributions unjustifiably and blocked me for 'vandalism' without explaining how I committed such acts. Please reinstate me; I have not broken any rules.

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Request reason:

the reason I was blocked is invalid. It isn't supported by any explanation and so there isn't much I can say to refute it.