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*Down!

Hi and thanks for treating the page. May I ask you (wearing sackcloth and ashes) to also delete Lehni! I created at the same time? (Actually that's what made me create Down! in the first place, but I see now I should have treated the Czech term in a different way as well.) Thanks again, --Duncan 17:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

PS I don't understand one thing though: does it mean that after the command Down! it's up to the dog whether it sits down or lies down? Do dog trainers use the full phrasal verbs to distinguish? (Czech is quite unequivocal about this).

It means "get down" and is used when a dog has put its front paws on someone or has jumped on to a seat or something similar. To make a dog lie down, a trainer or owner would usually say "lie down", and to make it sit down, they say "sit".

"Lehni!" can stay, as it is just a redirect page, and people might search for that term. — Paul G 11:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot - both for explaining (I was beginning to wonder whether I'll ever find out, as my similar question at the rfd "room" remained unanswered) and for this - I quite forgot when redirecting Lehni! that I had made this link, so I've totally botched this affair from the beginning to the end. --Duncan 21:27, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

pierre

Hello Paul, could you add a pronunciation to the Italian term to show that it comes from (deprecated template usage) PR rather than from the French. By the way, should we have the Italian pronunciations of the individual letters somewhere? - either in each letter's entry or maybe in the pronunciation section of Wiktionary:About Italian. Cheers Jeff. SemperBlotto 10:24, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

p.s. Time for a talk archive?

OK, I've added the pronunciation.

I think we can have the pronunciations of the letters under A, B, etc; if these do not already have Italian entries, then there is a special case for them doing so given that the standard Italian alphabet has only 21 letters. If I send you a list of pronunciations, would you like to add these?

Thanks Paul - added to my list of things to do (along with that appendix (that I had seen elsewhere and forgotten about)). SemperBlotto 10:37, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Appendix:Italian phonetic alphabet now added - I now have to add a few proper nouns to fix red links. (and also add reverse links from the place names) Thanks again. SemperBlotto 10:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Since I don't actually understand phonetic characters, I am not confidant at adding to the letters. I added an entry to A but am not sure of the differences. B doesn't seem to have an entry at all yet. SemperBlotto 16:34, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

That's OK — you need only copy and paste the text as I have given it to you. — Paul G 17:41, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder — now done. — Paul G 10:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

OK. I started adding Italian pronuciations to the translingual sections of letters, then realised that was the wrong thing to do. I have added an Italian section to Z#Italian, with a soft redirect from z#Italian. If that meets with your approval, I shall do all the others. SemperBlotto 09:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that looks good to me, except that "twenty-first" and "twenty-sixth" should be hyphenated rather than as currently written. — Paul G 08:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Italian rhymes

Hi Paul. As we don't allow inflected forms in English rhyme entries, I assume the same applies to Italian. I see that Rhymes:Italian:-ando has one gerund in it - presumably this must be removed (or we will have thousands to add). What about verb infinitives? - are we really allowed to add all the -are verbs to Rhymes:Italian:-are? What about all the nouns that end in -ità - do they all rhyme with each other? (probably more questions to come) SemperBlotto 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the gerunds at -ando should be removed.

Infinitives are uninflected forms, so all those -are verbs will have to go in... perhaps we will need to subdivide that page by number of syllables so it doesn't become immense. All words ending in -à (not just -ità) are rhymes. — Paul G 10:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Paul. In anticipation, I seeded -are with those verb infinitives that were also adjectives. I'm thinking of a way of automating the addition of the rest (or of generating a list in alphabetical order). The problem is splitting them into groups having the same number of syllables - perhaps I could just count the vowels (would that work?). SemperBlotto 10:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily, alas, because you might have pairs or triples of vowels ("automatizzare" has 7 vowels but only 6 syllables: au-to-ma-tiz-za-re). Even if you count pairs and triples as one vowel, this won't work because sometimes groups of vowels form two or more syllables (eg, "aiuola" has 3 syllables: a-ywo-la). But if you wrote a script that put all the words with isolated vowels into one pile and the others into another, this would no doubt help a lot. The ones with pairs and triples of vowels, which would no doubt form the smaller pile, could then be checked manually. — Paul G 10:32, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

OK - we have another back-burner situation. SemperBlotto 10:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I have made a start on Rhymes:Italian:Stressed on /u/. Could you have a quick look at it and its hierarchical child to see if I have made any blunders (e.g. number of syllables). SemperBlotto 21:42, 31 March 2009 (UTC) p.s I haven't completed the task and added rhyme sections to the words themselves. Also, I have put words that I'm unsure of into "see also" sections - you might like to move them, or tell me what to do with them.

Paul. As you are not here very often, I have started to put questions on the talk pages e.g. Rhymes talk:Italian:Stressed on /u/. Is that OK, or would you prefer private emails. SemperBlotto 16:06, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jeff - I am much more likely to see private emails sooner, so yes please, if you can. Thanks. — Paul G 09:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

bureaucrat action needed

I always bug SB for these things, but since you seem to be around lately, I thought I'd bug you this time instead and give him a break. Would you mind acting on the results of Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2009-05/User:BiT for admin? Thanks.—msh210℠ 22:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind: SB has taken care of it.  :-) —msh210℠ 16:18, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Hobson-Jobson

Could you take a look? The RfV is still open. DCDuring TALK 20:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. This seems to be in hand now. — Paul G 12:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Abuse of adminstrator priviliges

I attempted to remove a nonsense definition by an IP user 89.242.101.100 in the nazism article. I was reverted with no explanation. I explained that the definition corresponds to an adective, that an -ism is a noun and that no definition supports such a definition item. I was reverted again by the same user (Amgine), and then blocked for "deleting content from pageS". When all I did was remove a unsupported definition item. --71.187.105.219 20:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Mauerfall

While you're here - is your German good enough to add this one? SemperBlotto 15:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Not really, no - I could get the gender right but not the different cases (although these are probably the same as for Fall, and the word isn't in the German Wiktionary yet. Sorry. — Paul G 10:35, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

User:Mglovesfun/Appendix

The phrasebook entries you created failed RFD. However I've moved the content to my subpage, feel free to edit and eventually to turn this into an appendix. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

sporgery

Hey there, I noticed you created the page on sporgery, thanks for the contribution. Just to let you know I added some passages from references. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 20:50, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

m:Wiktionary/logo/refresh/voting

I do not want to come across as contumelious but please consider casting your vote for the tile logo as—besides using English—the book logo has a clear directionality of horizontal left-to-right, starkly contrasting with Arabic and Chinese, two of the six official UN languages. As such, the tile logo is the only translingual choice left and it was also elected in m:Wiktionary/logo/archive-vote-4. Warmest Regards, :)--_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 02:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. Unfortunately it looks like I don't have permission to vote, but my preference (the tile logo, as you mention) is currently ahead, so I hope it gets through. — Paul G 15:28, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Latest edits

Hello Paul. You've made a right pig's ear of some Italian entries by putting pronunciation sections between the headword and definition. See re, (deprecated template usage) esibiti, (deprecated template usage) convertiti, (deprecated template usage) nettare. I have fixed (deprecated template usage) rivestiti but will let you do the others. SemperBlotto 15:00, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• You're doing it again with (deprecated template usage) capitano! SemperBlotto 16:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

• • All fixed. Thanks for letting me know. — Paul G 17:39, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

WT:RFV

Could you please read the introduction to this page. Are you disputing that oucry, overhead and overhaul are words in English? If not, please don't list them. The page is big enough without listing off-topic material. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I've moved those discussions to WT:TR so they don't get mixed up with word sense verification requests. Hope that's okay. Equinox ◑ 13:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I used the wrong template. Thanks for fixing this, Equinox — Paul G (talk) 16:39, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

tiser

Hello Paul. Would you say that this French verb would be a reasonable translation of (deprecated template usage) preload (to drink cheap booze at home before going out clubbing)? SemperBlotto (talk) 14:32, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Jeff. Hm, possibly, except it doesn't have the sense of "before going out" that "preload" does. Maybe it could be translated with a phrase "tiser avant de sortir", or something like that. But "tiser" is slang, and I wouldn't say "preload" is. So I would suggest "boire de l'alcool avant de sortir" or something similar.

By the way, I've changed the translations at "tiser" - slang terms should really be translated with slang terms. — Paul G (talk) 15:04, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

alacramente (not alacremente)

Hi Paul. I came across this adverb in the Italian Wiktionary. It seems to be real (but rare). What adjective could it derive from? SemperBlotto (talk) 07:20, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. "Alacre" (eager, lively) gives "alacremente", of course, but I've never seen "alacramente", which would come from "alacro", but the Italian Wiktionary doesn't have an entry for that. My suspicion is that "alacramente" is incorrect and shouldn't be there, but I don't know for sure. Maybe mark it "rfv" (if the Italian Wiktionary has that template) and see what happens? — Paul G (talk) 11:00, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Votes/2008-01/IPA for English r

You may have forgotten about this. For this reason, please use ɹ not r in titles of English rhyme pages. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:48, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Forced user renames coming soon for SUL

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colonel, Rhymes:English/ɜː(ɹ)nəl

Your claim that "colonel" does not rhyme with /ɜː(ɹ)nəl/ words in rhotic accents is unfounded. A quick Google search of several dictionaries (Century Dictionary, Dictionary.com, Cambridge, Macmillan, American Heritage, etc.) all say that colonel is completely homophonous to kernel, and thus deserves to be on the rhyme list. The first five I listed have rhotic transcriptions on hand, with several other dictionaries doing so as well. Hillcrest98 (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

de-bureaucratting

Hi. Do you mind if I try to have you removed as a bureaucrat? I've never done it before, and figured you'd be a good place to start. --Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 12:24, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

• Meh, I did it anyway --Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 12:25, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hi Paul. Only just realised that you are back with us. Some things have changed, most things are just the same. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

• Sorry about trying to decrat you. --WF on Holiday (talk) 15:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Don't apologise. I wasn't doing any cratting anyway. — Paul G (talk) 05:21, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Nearby pages tool

If you add importScript('User:Dixtosa/nearby.js'); to your common.js you'll get a list of nearby pages on every entry, which can help a lot with finding derived and related terms. DTLHS (talk) 06:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, that would be useful. I've been looking at the alphabetical lists and "What links here" pages. — Paul G (talk) 06:23, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

User:Paul G/common.js. DTLHS (talk) 06:24, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I figured it out just before you posted :)

nonheavy

Just letting you know that I moved this to WT:RFVE. If the term were attested in this form, by community consensus it should be kept. If it were only attested in the "non-heavy" form, then that should be kept and not the "nonheavy" form. So it's a matter of RFV in my opinion. PseudoSkull (talk) 15:33, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

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cladobranch

Hi Paul. When you have time, could you add a pronunciation section to cladobranch - it rhymes with nudibranch. (There are probably other organisms with the same hard ending) SemperBlotto (talk) 08:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

How is the vowel in the first syllable pronounced (and can you provide a reference)? This word is not in onelook.com or the OED (2nd ed.), although the latter has "kladd-o" and "klay-do" as possible pronunciations of other words beginning with that combining form. — Paul G (talk) 06:38, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it is like "clay" or "hay", rather than "clad" or "had". SemperBlotto (talk) 10:27, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I'll look at some other words beginning with clado-. It isn't a rhyme, though, unless both words are pronounced on the final syllable. — Paul G (talk) 17:19, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I've had a look at some similar words, and British English uses "clay-do" and American English usually uses "cladd-o", so I will follow that pattern. — Paul G (talk) 17:26, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I'd expect it to be like clade. DCDuring (talk) 20:05, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't. In my mind's ear it's "clad-o-brank". Chuck Entz (talk) 02:51, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

I've never understood how we are supposed to be authoritative about pronunciations without attestation outside our own idiolects, which we hardly ever seek. DCDuring (talk) 04:21, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

I agree - this needs attestation. I'll comment out the pronunciation until we have it. — Paul G (talk) 06:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

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Flitwick

Hi Paul. Flitwick, the small town in Bedfordshire is pronounced as if it were "Flitick" (I used to live nearby). Perhaps you could add a pronunciation section (beyond my pay grade). SemperBlotto (talk) 16:04, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Jeff - I've got that covered :) It's a stop on my train to work. That's why I've added a gloss to the name of the Harry Potter character, which, oddly, is pronounced as written. I've now added a pronunciation in the entry itself. — Paul G (talk) 16:09, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Well done. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

serata d'onore

Hi Paul. Do you know the meaning of this Italian phrase. There is a TV program of the same name but I've never seen it. SemperBlotto (talk) 17:42, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Jeff. One of my dictionaries translates "serata di onore" as "benefit night" and WordReference.com translates "serata d'onore" as "evening in honour (of)" (which of course would be followed by a name). — Paul G (talk) 17:46, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

English rhymes...

You left a note on my talk page explaining the format for these entries had changed?

What was the correct layout for these now, so that I can review the entries I attempted LintError fixes on? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I did, but then I saw it was another user who had reverted the format changes I had made.

The format change is to do with the location of links: for example, "/æb/ + vowel..." is now "/æb.../", and the page linked to includes links to both æb + vowel and æb + consonant. The underlying wiki format should be unchanged.

I see you added some formatting to tables - that's great, thanks for that. I don't think that change should affect the changes I have made. — Paul G (talk) 07:42, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Duquesne

Hi Paul. Could you add a pronunciation section to this ghost town please. Bob Dylan pronounces it "Dukane" on his record "Tempest". SemperBlotto (talk) 15:59, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jeff. Done, plus I found a little more information. — Paul G (talk) 07:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

A question concerning deletion of Wiktionary pages

Hello, Paul user:Paul G.

Some days ago I created a new category on the Wiktionary.

The name of the category is: Philistinian personal names.

This is a page devoted to the ancient history of Canaan.

Yesterday MetaKnowledge a sysop at the Wiktionary abruptly deleted this page.

On the deletion log MetaKnowledge wrote that the title is wrong. I don't discern any wrong details.

Can you please, restore this page.

Sincerely,

Shlomo.

ShlomoKatzav (talk) 12:28, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Paul User:Paul G.

I must apologize.

MetaKnowledge was right.

Because I had to use a canonical name for the category.

So, I'll create the category from the ground, in concord with the naming conventions.

Shlomo.

ShlomoKatzav (talk) 03:44, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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Retiring the Rhymes namespace

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Thanks for flagging this up. I have replied on that page. — Paul G (talk) 07:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

requesting username change

Greetings Paul G,

Would you be so kind as to change my username from "mynewfiles" to "newfiles"? I would greatly appreciate our assistance in this matter. newfiles (talk) 19:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mynewfiles: Equinox was mistaken: although there was a time when bureaucrats were able to rename accounts, it now requires someone with global renaming rights. See m:Steward requests/Username changes. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:24, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you kindly for the information. newfiles (talk) 22:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

time-night and Centrelink-time

Greetings Paul G!

So I did a little digging and noticed that you contributed several derived terms for "time" back in 2007:

https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=time&diff=prev&oldid=2115923 (it appears on line 52).

Any idea what the terms "time-night" and "Centrelink time" mean, or if they even have any meanings?

I'm super curious to know, and I'd appreciate your kind response.

Thank you,

mynewfiles newfiles (talk) 22:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Mynewfiles,

That was a long time ago! I'm afraid I can't tell you a great deal after all this time. "Centrelink time" (no hyphen) has a Google Books hit, but this is a rare collocation. I have no idea what "time-night" might mean. Mistakenly entered for "night-time", possibly?

Sorry I can't be of very much help. — Paul G (talk) Paul G (talk) 14:31, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello Paul G,

Thank you so much for the response. I understand that it is difficult to determine such information after so much time has passed. One last question: do you remember the source or document which you used to input these terms? newfiles (talk) 17:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid not, sorry. Possibly the OED?

I see that time-night was entered speculatively but was deleted for lack of evidence of its existence. — Paul G (talk) 13:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. newfiles (talk) 17:58, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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