User talk:Nudecline

Welcome

Please note that this is not Wikipedia. You are currently on Wiktionary, a dictionary web site. If you would like to add a word and its definition, then you are welcome to do so. Encyclopedic articles, such as the one you entered, belong on an encyclopedia web site, such as Wikipedia. Thanks.Mglovesfun (talk) 08:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I try to include only dictionary definitions, that are too short to include in Wikipedia. In any case, I have not created the page Category:Initialisms. But it was very usefull. Before delete it, you would put the rfd tag or move to a Wiktionary:Initialisms page--Nudecline 08:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

No, it's just because you're new and you don't understand the category system. We already have Category:Initialisms by language and Category:English initialisms. Category:Initialisms would be words relating to initialisms, and I'm not sure there are any. Are there? Mglovesfun (talk) 10:01, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I have used the English category. But think that could be initialisms in other languages. In any case, is fundamental indicate to the new user how create an initialism entry (because of this, there are not more) and the deleted page was very clear. The content could be moved to a [[:Wiktionary:]] page, if necessary . --Nudecline 10:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Done by Conrad.Irwin, good idea IMO because it wasn't really a category - it didn't contain anything, it just had notes on initialisms. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I've updated the documentation too - and fixed {{en-initialism}} so that it displays the inflection line (just the page name in bold). Conrad.Irwin 10:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

OK. Thank you. --Nudecline 10:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Sum of parts

Hi, great to have you on board! Just a quick note, words like active vehicle don't need their own Wiktionary pages, because they are just a "sum of parts" - i.e. a "vehicle" that is "active" in this case. This was the same issue that someone had with bus discretionary capital. Please keep up the good work, and if you have more questions I'll try and answer them. Conrad.Irwin 10:07, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

There is not a definition for discretionary capital (some doubts: what is the difference with non-discretionary capital, how is this non-discretionary capital called, are there any specificities in law related to bus?). Sometimes, the definition can be legal and it is a more specific element --Nudecline 10:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

The legal rationale is valid, but difficult. We have some entries that use this rationale. See ground beef, for which the second sense is based on the US regulatory definition (which has fairly widespread use). Sorting this kind of thing out is difficult, especially in the US where it might be a matter of state law, thus in principle leading to more than 50 possible definitions, each of which should be attested. I note that none of the reference works at OneLook deem "discretionary capital" worthy of inclusion. DCDuring TALK 11:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Good. You have given a good criteria-->when a definition is included in a FEDERAL law (by now, not include state law). Bus discretionary capital (the term with the three words) is defined in the Section 3 of the Federal Transit Act (former Urban Mass Transportation Act).Really, what is a discretionary capital?--Nudecline 11:42, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Copyright

Please don't copy definitions from other sources, your addition to focal point comes directly from [1]. This is copyright violation. It is acceptable to use reworded definitions from such sources, providing you add a link under a references heading to acknowledge that that's where the idea came from. Conrad.Irwin 13:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

OK. Or I am going to add to a lis of desired definitions. Thanks --Nudecline 13:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

BTW all newcomers from Wikipedia (including myself) have problems for the first few weeks, as there are key differences. Don't be disheartened too easily. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)