User talk:Alexis Jazz

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doekoe

Hey, I saw that you changed the etymology of doekoe from Sranan to Sarnami. Are you sure about that (I checked the ref)? Even if the ultimate origin is Sarnami, Sranan is a much more common source for slang terms. It looks like sources are fairly split on whether it is ultimately from Sarnami or Sranan [1], but I can't find the word in SIL's Sarnami dictionary. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 11:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo you're asking me something that's almost 9 months ago so I don't fully remember. I see I added a source. How responsible of me! As always, all of our problems would be solved if we had more dhuku.. (some entries are hidden) Alexis Jazz (talk) 18:40, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

I'll ask around. If it is confirmed the Sranantongo section should be split into two etymologies. (Also, we seem to class Sarnami as a variant of Caribbean Hindustani). ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 10:31, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo w:Sarnami, w:Sarnami Hindustani, w:Sarnami Hindustani language and w:Sarnami language also redirect to w:Caribbean Hindustani. Alexis Jazz (talk) 16:27, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Bengali dhuku

If you still want to have that entry created (by someone else), you could request it at WT:RE:bn. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 13:58, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo Thanks. I had just found it at a source that seemed reliable in the sense of "that's probably correct", but not something that would be useful here as a reference. Writing "Bengal" instead of "Bengali", well, that was just stupid, but it's a wiki.. I'm not an expert in anything and I know I make mistakes (and try to learn from them). And this being a wiki, I count on others to correct me when I'm wrong. Just like I try to correct others when they are wrong. I don't personally need the entry, I just happened to find it while researching the word so figured I might as well add it. Alexis Jazz (talk) 14:21, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

I've added it to the request page.

Either way, it is a bad idea to edit the content of languages you don't know, because a page often isn't read by other users working in a language until much later. Here is a good though extreme case study of why not to edit like that. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 15:42, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

in het land der blinden is eenoog koning

When you move a page, you should also ensure that the contents of the destination page are correct. The new page still had a link to itself and had the tag "unofficial". It's also better to change the redirect into an alternative form. (As a more general word of caution, don't move pages just based on the spelling prescribed by the Woordenlijst. Their spellings are occasionally unattested or simply much rarer than other forms. That's somewhat theoretical in this case though, at a quick glance both spellings seem common enough to me.) ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 07:32, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo I had overlooked there was an "alternative forms" section. I moved it because Caudex Rax moved it on WikiWoordenboek. When I created the entry on WikiWoordenboek I just went off the spelling here. Thanks for fixing it! Alexis Jazz (talk) 15:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

That's all right, all things equal is indeed desirable to have a lemma at a more current spelling and to harmonise a bit with NL Wiktionary (provided the destination spelling is more common or about as common as the alternatives). Moving the lemma was the right call. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 12:56, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Babel

Greetings, would you add {{Babel}} to your user page? It is not mandatory, just useful. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@Dan Polansky: The main issue I have with Babel is that it requires me to rate my abilities in any language I decide to include. I don't like that. I know English (en), Dutch (nl), some German (both reading and writing, though the writing is likely rather poor) and can sort-of read Frysk (fy) but absolutely not write it, because reading it involves saying it out loud, because written Frysk is complete nonsense to Dutch speakers but when spoken it is (mostly) intelligible. Feel free to add a babel box to my user page. I just don't want to rate myself. Alexis Jazz (talk) 11:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Would it be {{#babel: nl|en-3|de-2}}, for a start? (Not via template, but the result is the same.) It does not have to be precise; it just gives a first idea. You know your native tongue for sure, and I can tell you your written English is at least en-3, on the face of it. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@Dan Polansky: I'd say German probably closer to 1. Now that you mention it, I remembered another reason I don't like rating myself: it can be used against me. "You're only en-3, your opinion doesn't count" That's why (I just remembered this) I once created this humorous "Babel" box for another project. Alexis Jazz (talk) 12:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

'You're only en-3, your opinion doesn't count': That would be a rubbish thing to say or think and I never saw anyone make this kind of comment. I am self-declared as en-3 (someone thought I was actually en-4), and I have not seen anyone use it against me or my editing. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:13, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@Dan Polansky: I could be wrong. I generally wouldn't expect it to be said literally, it might not be said at all, but if your opinion gets dismissed because you are en-3, a newbie, a woman, not white, etc, that very much sucks. And I'm afraid it does happen, even on WMF projects. I can't say how often as it often wouldn't be said literally. I could still add the humorous Babel box or some variant if it helps, my version doesn't include a rating. Alexis Jazz (talk) 12:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

User page

"I've done wrong. I know I did, but I can't erase the past. I can only apologize for what I've done, and hope I could be forgiven some day." Mag ik vragen waar dat naar verwijst? Volgens mij heb je hier niets uitgehaald dat ik als een wandaad zou zien en zeker niets dat om die mate van zelfkastijding vraagt. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 17:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo: dat is mijn global user page, die zie je automatisch op iedere wiki waar ik geen aparte gebruikerspagina heb aangemaakt. Ik had op Commons een alternatief account aangemaakt om ergens op te reageren zonder serieus risico dat het onderwerp (w:Web Sheriff) mij jurisdisch zou gaan pesten. Achteraf gezien droeg mijn mijn commentaar met het alternatieve account niet echt iets bij, en daar heb ik dus spijt van. Compleet uit het niets was mijn account op Commons enkele dagen later geblokkeerd zonder opgaaf van reden. Helaas is vervolgens het gerucht [2][3] ontstaan dat ik checkusers off-wiki zou hebben lopen bedreigen. Checkusers zijn hierover ondervraagt en reageren (begrijpelijk) ontwijkend omdat het domweg niet meer dan een gerucht is. Twee hele goede admins, Majora en Zhuyifei1999, zijn door dit debacle opgestapt en die krijgen we nooit meer terug. Ik heb niet echt veel hoop dat de waarheid ooit nog aan het licht komt. Alexis Jazz (talk) 19:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Oké, dat verklaart inderdaad de tekst op je gebruikerspagina. Je uitlatingen in de discussies waren inderdaad niet fraai, maar permanente blokkering is wel heel excessief voor die vermeende bedreiging. Ik neem aan dat de conditionele deblokkering nu van tafel geveegd is door de beweringen over offline bedreigingen? Ik wist niet dat de cu's op Commons zo'n corrupte bende zijn. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 12:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo Daar komt het helaas op neer. Door die bewering hebben de checkusers nu een monopolie op het beoordelen van enig verzoek tot deblokkering. Cru gezegd "judge, jury and executioner". (is er een Nederlandse versie van die term?) Alexis Jazz (talk) 17:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Geen idee, misschien komt kampbeul in de buurt. Is er nog risico op verdere gevolgen of denk je dat de kous met de permanente blokkering af is? ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 18:45, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

@Lingo Bingo Dingo Bij kampbeul moet ik meteen aan WW2 denken. Ik denk dat eigenrichting of eigen rechter spelen meer in de buurt komt, maar ook dat is niet helemaal hetzelfde. En ik reken nergens meer op. Alexis Jazz (talk) 19:11, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Het was lichtelijk sardonisch bedoeld; het totale gebrek aan enige verantwoording lijkt mijns inziens niet gedekt door "eigenrichting/eigen rechter". Maar goed, als ze iets proberen uit te vreten dat hier een impact heeft, geef je maar een brul. ←₰-→ Lingo ^Bingo _Dingo (talk) 19:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)