Template talk:sv-proper noun

en.wikt.ification

I've created the template but it's not really according to en.wikt.'s principals I guess. If someone can en.wikt.ify it I'd be glad!Jonteemil (talk) 21:46, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

@Ruakh: Is the template good to go now then?Jonteemil (talk) 19:17, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

I'd suggest discussing it at Wiktionary talk:About Swedish before you actually start using it. —Ruakh_TALK 23:58, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't know why the genitive is shown in the headword, when it's shown in an inflection table in all our existing entries. The proper noun entries should match the other noun entries. —CodeCat 00:02, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

@CodeCat: Well normal nouns have eight forms (uncountable four) but proper nouns only have two, including the word itself, so I figured that it wouldn't be worth it with an inflection table with only two forms. I mean English nouns don't have one so I figured it'd be easy to do with Swedish proper nouns as with English "normal" nouns. The only difference being that English nouns have the parenteses for plural and Swedish proper nouns for genitive. To be clear proper nouns only have one additional form (genitive) while normal nouns have eight. Of what I've seen there aren't any inflection tables for proper nouns on en.wikt. in addition to this one. Jonteemil (talk) 01:30, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

My personal preference is to always put inflections in the inflection section, and never in the headword line. In any case, if the genitive form is shown in an inflection table for existing nouns, why not also for these nouns? An inflection table would also make it clear that proper nouns don't have definite or plural forms, by leaving those spaces empty. A headword line won't give that information. Moreover, for some proper nouns, there is no indefinite form, e.g. jorden. —CodeCat 13:31, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, about "jorden" that is corresponding to "the Earth". Since the English side is on Earth I'd say that the Swedish one should be at jord as well. You can say: "Vi lever alla på vår jord" - "We all live on our Earth", "Jag vill ha en jord utan svält" - "I want an Earth without starvation."

I just mean, why do you want inflections in tables when all

English verbs, nouns and adjectives aren't? If the genitive form is the only form being shown I'd say that people will understand that there only is one form. But if you insist I guess it's possible. I just feel that it will take up so much space and look bad. And by the way I don't think proper nouns are definite or plural in any language, except for "nounifications" (the Swansons, all Roberts go there, all Peters go there).Jonteemil (talk) 17:08, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

@CodeCat: I see that the Danish part of Danmark has the genitive in parenteses. That is how I want for Swedish as well.Jonteemil (talk) 22:46, 6 July 2017 (UTC)