Talk:yiff

Discussion at rfd

Protologism with a surprising number of meanings; possible copyvio (see [1]); seems to have been invented for a laugh rather than to fulfil any useful purpose (see the aforementioned link again). — Paul G 09:18, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• See w:yiff. To my surprise, the number of Google Groups hits convinces me that this satisfies both criteria 1 and 4 of Wiktionary:criteria for inclusion. (Also see this.) I think that you're right about the copyright violation, though. I'll do one of my rewrites. Do you want to keep this content in the history, or do you want the rewrite at Yiff/Temp ? Uncle G 14:43, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Rewrite to avoid copyvio. Yeah, it's a furry slang word with a wide range of meanings. (The adjective "yiffy" also has disparate meanings, from "sexually aroused" to "sexually appealing") Been around for a very long time, and even was on the episode of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation where they went to a furry convention. Too old to be a protologism. BTW, that etymology of "Y.I.F.F." that Bahumat gives may be genuine, but probably unrelated to the current word; see [2]. A good extended definition is here. —Muke Tever (a furry)
  • The rewrite is at yiff/Temp. Delete the original copyright violation and then move this into place. (The Wikipedia link will then be automatically correct.) I've also given you yiffs, yiffy, yiffing, yiffed, yiffable, yiffest, yiffer, and YIFF — all (bar the last) complete with quotations — for good measure. I've done my part starting you off. Further improvements, such as quotations for the adjectival senses of yiff and yiffer and citations from CSI: Crime Scene Investigation dialogue, are up to you. Uncle G 23:56, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Okay, but I'm not an admin on en:, so I cant delete the original copyvio. —Muke Tever 15:46, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • Nor am I. I expect that one of the administrators will notice this discussion shortly, though. Uncle G 02:31, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yiff deleted. Yiff/Temp moved to Yiff. Yiff/Temp deleted. --Connel MacKenzie 06:27, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Another one that I'll grumblingly accept. The original entry may have been OK under fair use. There's an interesting case referenced at http://www.onlinepolicy.org/action/legpolicy/opg_v_diebold/ In a sentence it seems to say that if someone issues a DMCA order for material that is not infringing (including by claim of fair use!) they can be held liable for costs. Eclecticology 00:49, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Apocryphal definition removals

The whole "sound of mating foxes thing", to my knowledge, has NEVER been seriously considered as valid. We all just know as a fact it is a myth, we just don't know where it started. For some reason, it was always ARTIC foxes in particular. What sane person would be around the habitat of one for long enough to actually observe two mating? They live in the most frigid parts of Canada (where like... no one bothers to live), the coastal areas of Greenland (Another place absolutely no one pursues the idea of living in), and the northernmost edges of Russia and Siberia. Good luck observing two foxes mating while you are an ice cube!

I can assure you, though, I've seen them by chance before. Their mating sounds NOTHING like a "yiff" or "yff" sound. It's this weird gurgling growling sound like "Arrgfh" (That's my best attempt at typing that sound"). 96.231.152.137 20:24, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Quotations

Here's a genuine use of the word as far as I can see.

" have looked at every single question in here and not a single one addresses Yiff. Yiff is drawing or animating cartoon animals in sexual situations. Anthromorphisizing (giving human qualities to animals). My 14 year old who is very artistic started innocently drawing cartoons and has slowly digressed into yiff drawings. It's common that Yiff digresses into Furry's - which is STRANGE people who dress up in animal costumes and have sex in them. This is not a joke! My son has been "role playing" as a certain character on an internet site that looks very innocent - but I am afraid it is getting out of hand! PLEASE HELP. Do you know any other kids who do this? What is normal? Where is the line drawn? I'm nauseas over the whole thing. I know you're not a psychologist, I just want to know if it's a popular thing out there in the teen world....... thank you." [3] Andrew massyn 20:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

There is presently a petition to have the word included in the next OED. The petition is signed by 23 000 people. It seems to have valid usage and accordingly rfvpassed. I have not looked at each of the definitions closely and would welcome any dodgy meanings being re-submitted to rfv for further consideration. Andrew massyn 21:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)}}

RFD?

Anyone have the link to the WP AfD discussion? As the Wikipedia "reference" was used here to justify inclusion (a few months prior to WT:RFV even existing, FWIW,) it seems pretty relevant that that "reference" no longer exists. --Connel MacKenzie 21:57, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

I think I found it - and the majority of the "delete" votes were due to the entry here, existing. The redirect that replaces it still acknowledges the term, so, I guess the deletion isn't particularly relevant. --Connel MacKenzie 22:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

A Word?

This isn't a word. Why is it on a dictionary?

It is a word. There are multiple quotations from published sources attesting to its use as a word. --EncycloPetey 18:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Invented by a roleplayer called "Foxen"

Can we get a definite source for this, or else remove it? Equinox 12:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Adjective addition?

As the adjectival form, I think yiffy, yiffier, yiffiest should be in here. But I don't know how Wikitionary works, exactly...

We already have (deprecated template usage) yiffy. I'll add it here as a derived term. Equinox ◑ 11:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

yiff and yiffy

From my personal experience, yiffY is the adjective, when people say just "yiff" meaning related to yiff, that is actually a misspelling of yiffy, the Y is used in english to turn a noun into an adjective, like how "sex" becomes "sexy". (I'm not sure I'm using the correct terms to explain what I'm trying to explain, but I believe what I mean is clear enough as it is)

IMO in the adjective part it should simply point to Yiffy, or at least mention they are equivalent for that specific usage. --TiagoTiago 19:30, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Bold removal of the adjective part

here's what I removed:

Adjective

yiff (comparative yiffer, superlative yiffest)

1. (furry jargon) sexy, sexual, arousing
2. (furry jargon) pornographic
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     Of course if someone wants to pay a bunch of money for crappy yiff art sometimes too, well, that’s between them and the artist, ain’t it?

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     Neither one of us does anything even remotely related to yiff art, and we intend to keep it that way.

3. (furry jargon) capable of sexual intercourse
4. (furry jargon) willing to have sexual intercourse

Translations

sexy

• Portuguese: sensual (pt)
• (deprecated template usage) {{trans-mid}}

pornographic

• (deprecated template usage) {{trans-mid}}

capable of sexual intercourse

• (deprecated template usage) {{trans-mid}}

willing to have sexual intercourse

• (deprecated template usage) {{trans-mid}}

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--TiagoTiago 05:07, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I think the removal is okay. The given examples are attributive usage of the noun, and the senses without examples don't seem terribly likely (but see yiffy). Equinox ◑ 14:08, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Petition for Oxfordness. good source?

[4]

Do you agree that some of the stuff from the text of the petition woulr serve as aq good source? Please incorporate as you see fit. --TiagoTiago 18:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Not really. We need evidence of usage; the petition simply invents a bunch of a new senses without any evidence. See WT:CFI. Equinox ◑ 20:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Request for verification

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"To talk, to chat in a chat room." Equinox ◑ 11:53, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Deleted. Equinox ◑ 18:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

RFV discussion: June–December 2011

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yiff

(furry jargon, interrogative) “Anyone willing/desiring to have sex?”, and “Are you willing/desiring to have sex?” Equinox ◑ 15:34, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I think this is just a shortening of a phrase, not a seperate sense. You could ask someone 'Sandwich?' in much the same way. —CodeCat 18:05, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Failed RFV. Equinox ◑ 15:03, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

RFV discussion: November–December 2017

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yiff

This entry has long been problematic IMO, so I shall grasp the fox by the horns — oh, that's not a horn... We have cited some of the sexy senses but not these two: (i) "(intransitive, apocryphal) To bark (said of foxes)", (ii) "(intransitive, of a person, apocryphal) To bark like a fox (especially in a sexual way)". When I put "he yiffed" into Google Groups I don't get much and it's all the sex sense. Equinox ◑ 01:45, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

I can find some mentions (suggesting that this was the origin of the sexual meaning) but no uses other than the use as a noun. Kiwima (talk) 03:23, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

By the way, the cites for sense 3 don't even cover a whole month, let alone a whole year so at the moment it looks like a hotword from back in 1997. BigDom 08:07, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

That one is easily remedied, I have added a cite from 2017 (plus a couple more on the citations page). Kiwima (talk) 19:06, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)