Talk:windle

RFV discussion: July–October 2017

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windle

Rfv-sense: Plantago lancelata, dog-tail grass (dog's tail grass, dogtail grass, dogtail, dog-tail, dog's tail?).

I can't find it in online sources. There is a genus Cynosurus (dogstail). DCDuring (talk) 03:16, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Found some references to windle-grass. I can't verify the specific species. DTLHS (talk) 03:25, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the distinction with "bent grass", maybe the senses could be merged. DTLHS (talk) 03:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

The glossary citation is a mention and refers both to P. lanceolata and to the stalks of grassy plants in general, which is consistent with other usage and some definitions of windle in other dictionaries.

The one specific name (besides windle) in the citations is of crested dog's tail, which is taxonomically Cynosurus cristatus. DCDuring (talk) 18:12, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Wright's English Dialect Dictionary (1909) has, for one set of definitions of windle:

1. sb. A long stalk of grass or corn; a dry stalk of grass left standing in a field. n.Cy. The straw of wild grass (hall.). w.Yks.2, Lan.1, s.Lan.1, Chs.18, Der.2, nw.Der.1

2. Comp. (1) Windle-grass, a lank, parched stalk of grass; (2) -straw, (a) a stalk of withered grass, esp. of the crested dog-tail grass, Cynosurus cristatus, or of the white couch-grass, Triticum repens.

Thus, we have reasonable evidence for a more general sense of windle, but not the one(s) in our entry. BTW, bentgrasses are Agrostis spp. I haven't yet found evidence in support of that definition either. DCDuring (talk) 18:30, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Another source, which I can't find again, includes P. lanceolata in a list that includes five grass species and sedges (Carex and Juncus). DCDuring (talk) 19:00, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

I altered the definition to be more generic. I am now calling this cited Kiwima (talk) 05:16, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

RFV-resolved Kiwima (talk) 09:49, 29 October 2017 (UTC)