Talk:wall hanging
Latest comment: 9 years ago by Dan Polansky in topic wall hanging
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Sum of parts? ---> Tooironic (talk) 04:24, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Altered to countable. I would be inclined to keep it, the description is reasonably accurate, and I don't think it's all that obvious from the sum of its parts. Donnanz (talk) 08:56, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's a [[wall]] [[hanging]] though isn't it? The definition is 'a wall decoration […] ' Might as well change it to 'a wall hanging'. Delete. Renard Migrant (talk) 12:03, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per Donnanz. I don't see how this could be changed to "a wall hanging" when attestations are easily found for "the wall hanging[s]" or "[his/her] wall hanging[s]". For example, '2008, Robin Amber Kilgore, In Her Bathrobe She Blogged, page 91: "Flustered, he began to scrub his wall hanging feverishly in the kitchen sink". That does not seem particularly transparent to me at all, and if you didn't know that the character was an art lover with a spider infestation, you might think he was scrubbing the wall while somehow hanging in the sink. bd2412 T 14:15, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete It's wall+ sense #3 of hanging (noun). Would you guys want to see ceiling hanging, window hanging, Christmas tree hanging, door hanging, car mirror hanging… they're all attestable. --Hekaheka (talk) 17:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Are they? I get no usable Google Books results for car mirror hanging, ceiling hanging only gives results for ceilings being partially impacted, and door hanging seems to only give results about installing doors, or doors that are for some reason "hanging". On the other hand, "wall hanging", in the sense defined here, gets hundreds of hits. bd2412 T 18:18, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Car mirror hangings are not something to write books about, but a simple Google search gets 14,000+ hits. I'd assume at least 3 of them fulfil our CFI. --Hekaheka (talk) 21:57, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Door hanging could refer to the hanging of doors on hinges (OK, you mentioned it). And we shouldn't get confused with (death by) hanging, nor with paperhanging. Donnanz (talk) 22:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- I assume you mean interior rear-view mirrors. The hanging objects are also known as danglers or danglies. Donnanz (talk) 22:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- At times one gets what one wants to see. "Door hangings" gets 220,000 direct Google hits. BGC has these: [1] [2] [3] [4]. These are only with attributes "beaded" and "beautiful". Additional attributes will bring additional results. --Hekaheka (talk) 03:32, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Car mirror hangings are not something to write books about, but a simple Google search gets 14,000+ hits. I'd assume at least 3 of them fulfil our CFI. --Hekaheka (talk) 21:57, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Are they? I get no usable Google Books results for car mirror hanging, ceiling hanging only gives results for ceilings being partially impacted, and door hanging seems to only give results about installing doors, or doors that are for some reason "hanging". On the other hand, "wall hanging", in the sense defined here, gets hundreds of hits. bd2412 T 18:18, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete It's wall+ sense #3 of hanging (noun). Would you guys want to see ceiling hanging, window hanging, Christmas tree hanging, door hanging, car mirror hanging… they're all attestable. --Hekaheka (talk) 17:26, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
:Delete--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:16, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep, using the lemming heuristic: present in oxforddictionaries.com[5], AHD[6], and Collins[7]; seems to be even in Merriam-Webster unabridged[8].--Dan Polansky (talk) 05:39, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep then, I support the Lemming principle .--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 21:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. Another entry without WT:CFI being discussed without anyone adding a single attestation. —BoBoMisiu (talk) 22:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep by the fried egg principle: a painting hangs on a wall but is not a wall hanging. Kiwima (talk) 02:17, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- But a painting's not a hanging. Renard Migrant (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- macramé wall hanging? —BoBoMisiu (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- But a painting's not a hanging. Renard Migrant (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep per Kiwima and the fried-egg test. We define hanging as "Anything that is hung as a decorative element". Paintings are hung on walls as decorative elements, but they aren't wall hangings, which means the term is idiomatic, which means it meets CFI, which means some of us interpret CFI differently from others, which means we're not ignoring CFI in our voting. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:44, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'm glad you're qualified to speak for anyone who's voted keep. Even the ones who disagree with you. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Well, you seem to feel qualified to speak for everyone who's voted at all either way, so why not? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 17:32, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- No I'm just reading their comments. If people say they're voting for non-CFI reasons, I believe them. You're accusing them of lying are you? Renard Migrant (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Note: wallhanging is attested, so this meets WT:COALMINE. bd2412 T 19:13, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- No I'm just reading their comments. If people say they're voting for non-CFI reasons, I believe them. You're accusing them of lying are you? Renard Migrant (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Well, you seem to feel qualified to speak for everyone who's voted at all either way, so why not? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 17:32, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'm glad you're qualified to speak for anyone who's voted keep. Even the ones who disagree with you. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:25, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- RFD kept per consensus above. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:27, 22 May 2015 (UTC)