Talk:vintr

Different origins of Nynorsk vinter

@Mårtensås I'm not sure what to do when a form has several origins, but vinter in Nynorsk may have come from both Bokmål, and the spoken forms borrowed much earlier from East Nordic. Though, I assume the wide use of vinter in Nynorsk today is mainly caused by Bokmål, so if it can only be at one place, it should be under Bokmål as a borrowing.

Regarding the Norwegian dialectal forms: They're early borrowings from East Nordic, not in the shapes they have today, but they're likely not inherited. --Eilífr / ᛅᛁᛚᛁᚠᚱ 21:46, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Why do they have to be borrowings from East Nordic? Maybe the change *wintr > *wętr just did not spread as far east as these dialects? ᛙᛆᚱᛐᛁᚿᛌᛆᛌ ᛭ Proto-Norsing ᛭ Ask me anything 21:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

It's likely that they're borrowings because vinter is first found written in 1408, then many times after (Diplomatarium Norvegicum). The popularity of forms with -nt- today would suggest a wider use historically, which we don't find. The dialectal forms with -nt- today also reach far into the area where other -nt- rather consistently has disappeared, such as in vott.

Similar early borrowings were je (from jak) and vi (from vīr). They all have in common that they were not found in the earliest Norwegian written sources. Eilífr / ᛅᛁᛚᛁᚠᚱ 02:37, 8 February 2022 (UTC)