Talk:vertuuus

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Kept. See archived discussion of July 2008. 06:01, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

RFD discussion: November 2019–March 2020

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vertuuus

Only passed RfV because it was allegedly used in a well-known work (though that well known work is not explicitly in the citations). We have removed the "well-known work" exception to our attestation standards. DCDuring (talk) 19:56, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Next to the theory of the second u being an o unclosed at the top (see the earlier deletion discussion), this source notes (on page 338) that the u–o spelling variant is common. Can’t we simply treat this as an obsolete variant spelling of obsolete vertuous?  --Lambiam 21:55, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

This seems like an RFV matter. Old Man Consequences (talk) 03:52, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

I see now that the entry has an L2 of English, while the text in which the word is attested, Sir Gawayn and þe Grene Knyȝt, is actually Middle English. Does Middle English qualify as an LDL? The passage in the poem is as followeth:

Whyle þe wlonkeſt wedes he warp on hȳ ſeluen,

His cote, wyth þe conyſaūce of þe clere werkeʒ

Ennurned vpon veluet vˀtuuꝰ ſtoneʒ

Aboute beten, & boūden, enbrauded ſemeʒ,

& fayre furred w^t īne wyth fayre pelures.

The first smaller superscript that looks like a small ʔ is a scribal abbreviation for “er”, and the second, ꝰ, is a scribal abbreviation for “us”. Some editors (e.g. Tolkien) have assumed that this was miswritten for “vˀtuꝰ” – the scribe had already written the second “u” before they realized they should use an abbreviation. So in that case it is a misspelling of vertuus.  --Lambiam 19:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Middle English is not on the list of Well documented languages, so it is a LDL.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:48, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Then Keep, but change L2 to Middle English.  --Lambiam 13:45, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

• RFD resolved. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)